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SCANDINAVIAN SCRIBE METHODS
« on: June 10, 2003, 12:15:02 AM »
yeah all that means is you better have a good chainsaw ! I can answer most questions to this kind of log method and thought I would post this to get more people who have cabins to start posting there pictures and comments !  I will enjoy following the updates to sawinmontana , it makes the old scandinavian methods look prehistoric ! so if anyone is having troubles with this kind of log building method feel free to ask ok !  :P
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2003, 09:15:03 PM »
i be home on weekends to answer anyones questions ok ! bye now !  :P
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Re: SCANDINAVIAN SCRIBE METHODS
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2003, 08:43:44 PM »
I wonder if thats what I used on my benches?
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Re: SCANDINAVIAN SCRIBE METHODS
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2003, 08:51:01 PM »
UNKLEBUCK, are you what is known as a Finnish carpenter? ::)
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2003, 04:19:20 PM »
Har! Thats a DanG good one!
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2003, 10:09:19 PM »
Awww, man..... ::) ::) :D

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Re: SCANDINAVIAN SCRIBE METHODS
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2003, 05:31:55 PM »
What does an actual scribe look like and how is it used? I made a scribe by screwing two rulers to each other at the end and taping a pencil to one. ;D

well, it worked.
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2003, 06:27:36 PM »
Jeff, that sounds like a DanG fine log scribe to me  ;)  Lee Valley sells one that looks like this:

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=41144&category=1,41131&ccurrency=2&SID=

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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2003, 03:13:02 PM »
yeah everybody is correct ! basically its a big pencil compass with a bubble level attached at some point and it just transfers the top of the bottom log to the bottom of the top log and when your done scribing the complete log and bring it down to ground level and roll it over you have lines to follow with a chainsaw and you end up with a kind of hollow area then roll and staple in sill seal fiberglass insulation and then put the log back up on the wall and roll it over into place and it should fit like a glove and with allowances made on the log ends and top of notches it will be called shrink fit notches,gets tighter with age and more weight, then youre done ! the outside wall looks just like the inside , the more knots and uglier the log the prettier it looks when its done ! ok
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Re: SCANDINAVIAN SCRIBE METHODS
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2003, 07:07:56 PM »
The guy up the road does a  style where he cuts a lateral in both logs. he says it gives a tighter joint. I'm still amazed at how well he handles a chainsaw to follow the lines.  I have a hard time with a coloring book.
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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2003, 10:51:11 PM »
thats sounds neat, never tried that !  kind of nice to leave the top of the log below round on top for any possible moisture to dissappear from. except the notch area has a scarf shaped into it for compression as the years go by and gravity to do its magic !  i be reading timberframing books now and am ready to give it a go, they sure are pretty structures ! plus you dont have to hand peel the logs, just throw them on the mill , feels like carpentry again !  :P
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Re: SCANDINAVIAN SCRIBE METHODS
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2003, 11:24:34 PM »
You can find descriptions and photos of several types of scribers at:

http://www.loghomestore.com/tools2.shtml#scribers

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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2003, 09:59:34 AM »
I have been building a log house for my parents using the double-cut lateral that was mentioned above.Here is a picture of my Mackie scriber

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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2003, 01:14:58 AM »
Pic of me cutting the tracer cuts.
This is my first attempt a building a log house.The hardest part of this venture was peeling all the logs.I  built alot of specialized tools which was fun!
I'm getting close to installing the log floor joists.

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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2003, 10:11:10 PM »
nice picture Blue ! I built my first log cabin 20 years ago for my folks too! didnt know what I was gettin in to when dad sent me to log building school. my teacher went to the mackie school so i guess i learned it right the first time ! had 165 huge norways to peel when i got home from log school, ended up with  70 foot purlins but had to let them dry for a year but it worked out fine ! ended up buying a big old 25 ton Bay City truck crane for saftey reasons with a 90 foot boom for 1000 $,still runs great ! anyway good luck and keep postin the pics ! thanks ! :P
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« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2003, 10:00:11 PM »
Today , I started endbolting (splicing) my 60 foot logs over a mid wall notch.This gets rid of most of the sweep found in long logs and allows for longer walls.After the log on the right is final scribed into position.I make a 2 foot long x 3/4" wide saw kerf  across the joint. 3 inch holes are  drilled at both ends of the kerf.I plunge cut a flat on the side of the hole for placement of a large timber washer/nut.Then a piece of all thread is dropped in, bolting the logs together.Everything is galvanized.Untreated metal will leave rust stains everywhere.
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« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2003, 08:39:11 AM »
Finally above the doors this weekend (header logs), feels pretty good ;D. I've got a ways to go yet though. One double log beam, six floor joist, two trusses,a ridgepole and some posts.I'm gonna cut the windows out last.
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« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2003, 01:53:44 PM »
Is it hard to tighten up that threaded rod? Jim
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« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2003, 09:31:26 PM »
hey blue !  great pictures !  you sound committed to finish asap !  I like how deep you peeled your logs and how smooth they look. The first time I peeled logs I left the cambium layer on and the big norways were beautiful almost a tiger striping effect but by the time I got done and got a roof on, the cambium layer dried and cracked and faded and looked awful so I had it sandblasted then gobbed on the sikkens and saved "the ark" as my dad calls it ! good job ! very very nice !
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« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2003, 11:25:51 PM »
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Nope, not hard,I'll post a close up tomorrow.
Thanks for your nice comments Uncle Buck.I spent months and months peeling these logs.It was more difficult because I bought the logs from the local mill.They had been through the delimber,so you can imagine the damage I had to deal with.The spike rolls on those things, leave horendous tracks down each side of the logs.I made a bunch of drawknives for peeling.The ones in the store were way too narrow (kept skinning my knuckles)
I got used industrial planer blades for free at the mill, just welded some square stock to them for a handle and gripped  it with hockey tape.I got fancy with the last one and made cork grips They work best with the bevel side down and sharpened at about  20 - 25  degree angle .

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