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Re: Any news on the MS 462?
« Reply #60 on: October 28, 2017, 12:24:56 AM »
What Stihl dealer is in New Hill?
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Re: Any news on the MS 462?
« Reply #61 on: October 28, 2017, 11:07:11 AM »
What Stihl dealer is in New Hill?

ROFLMAO! 

NONE!  New Hill "proper" is comprised of a post office and a convenience store.  We don't even have a traffic light.

75 years ago it was a thriving community with several feed stores, blacksmith's shop, Mom and Pop Groceries, and even a motor court.  Today it's mainly a post office that provides service to a rural area (although the subdivisions from Apex are headed our way). 

My favorite local Stihl dealer, Bobby's Small Engine, is in Sanford NC, about 25 miles from the farm.  He supports a lot of loggers and tree service companies and is a good guy. 
Peterson 10" WPF with 65' of track
Smith - Gallagher dedicated slabber
Tom's 3638D Baker band mill
and a mix of log handling heavy equipment.

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Re: Any news on the MS 462?
« Reply #62 on: October 28, 2017, 10:27:28 PM »
I would think the position of the handle would determine the bar with the best balance. And that the manufacturer would locate the handle based upon what bar would be most suitable for the powerhead.

In other words, if a saw was developed with 5 Kw that only weighed 10 lbs. the manufacturer would locate the handle so it would be most balanced with around a 28" bar (regardless of the light weight of the powerhead).

Except that there are limits to how far forward they want to put the front handle: both because it gets more exposed the further out toward the bar it hangs and due to the ergonomics of the distance between the front and rear handles,
Yes there is some logic in all that. Longer handle spacing makes better leverage on a longer b/c.
Example right here when I compared my 562XP and 272XP.  The 60cc 562 is actually longer then the 72cc 272.
Reason how Husqvarna got the 562 rated for a 28" b/c.
25 years ago the hand strength of a pro end user with a 272XP favored ergonomics over a little extra leverage.
 

 
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Re: Any news on the MS 462?
« Reply #63 on: November 03, 2017, 10:19:57 PM »
That's a awsome looking 272 holmen! I had one almost that nice 10 years ago a guy bought mine new back in the mid 90s and only used it to cut up 20 cord of firewood. I got it for 250 bucks after he traded it in on a 2159. I used it as my main saw for a year and a spare for a few years after that. Now I kinda wish I had of just saved it but at the time I was just starting out and didn't have the money to buy a saw that I wasn't going to use
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« Reply #64 on: November 03, 2017, 11:12:35 PM »
That's a awsome looking 272 holmen! I had one almost that nice 10 years ago a guy bought mine new back in the mid 90s and only used it to cut up 20 cord of firewood. I got it for 250 bucks after he traded it in on a 2159. I used it as my main saw for a year and a spare for a few years after that. Now I kinda wish I had of just saved it but at the time I was just starting out and didn't have the money to buy a saw that I wasn't going to use
Maine, that 562XP and 272XP in my pic there were both brand new and had never cut a stick of wood yet.
It's a picture of past and present.
I had just bought that 562XP new and my 272XP which I bought several month's earlier .
The 272 I bought from a fella who inherited it from his BIL who died a couple of days after he bought it in 1993.
He stored it in his garage for over 20 years only to idle it for s few minutes every spring, but never had cut a stick of wood (never had a b/c on it).

I still have both saws today, the 562 has alot of hours on it. The 272 only has cut a small birch and a small spruce, with less then half of tank of fuel. I have it it in storage not sure what to do with it.
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Re: Any news on the MS 462?
« Reply #65 on: November 03, 2017, 11:37:57 PM »
That's a good find! I can't imagine there are very many new 272s out there!
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Re: Any news on the MS 462?
« Reply #66 on: November 03, 2017, 11:47:56 PM »
The 272XP is still manufactured in Brazil today but they are detuned so the 372XP made there can compete. Lots of old school and young Brazilian  loggers still like those old 2 series.
Mine is the first year 1993 272XP with no decomp. Probably the lightest and strongest of the 272 series
I just need to break it in and see  :D
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Re: Any news on the MS 462?
« Reply #67 on: November 04, 2017, 09:57:55 PM »
That's cool that there still being made! So a 272 will out cut a 372? By the time I bought my 2171 the 272 was pretty clapped out so the 2171 would easily out cut it and I didn't have anything to compare the 272 to when I got it. My grandfather does have a very low hour 266xp he bought new in 87 that will run pretty close to my 2166's I've converted to 2172's. The next thing is to run my best running 2166 against my 461... I bet it will be close just by feel but know way to know till I do it
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Re: Any news on the MS 462?
« Reply #68 on: November 05, 2017, 10:31:11 AM »
it all depends on what your cutting, I raced 272's for a lot of years and built a lot of them to, that short stroke sure will turn some high rpms but if cutting bigger hardwood the 372 is a better saw with the longer stroke of 36 mm compared to 34mm . The 372 just makes more torque . Its kind of like how everyone seems to love the 262  , I myself never cared for that saw , great saw if cutting broom handles but in bigger wood not so great

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Re: Any news on the MS 462?
« Reply #69 on: November 05, 2017, 10:34:05 AM »
both saws the 372 and the 461 change a huge amount on how the saw is set up , both can be set pretty lean and will still work all day long but not show the true power the saw can produce , the 461 will go from a Dog to a SuperStar just with using the screw driver

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Re: Any news on the MS 462?
« Reply #70 on: November 05, 2017, 10:34:45 AM »
there will be a 462 arctic as soon as I can buy it in the back of my truck

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Re: Any news on the MS 462?
« Reply #71 on: November 05, 2017, 08:03:46 PM »
Ok thanks for the info ehp! I will have to mess with my 461 then but it was also not broken in when I ran it also so now that it's broke in it may be better. I'm gonna buy a 572 or 462 whichever they come out with first I guess lol
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Re: Any news on the MS 462?
« Reply #72 on: November 05, 2017, 08:40:26 PM »
their going to have to sell me pretty hard on the 572 , even if it is faster than the 462 .Im pretty sure the 462 will be stock until it hits the driveway at my house then its getting worked over

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Re: Any news on the MS 462?
« Reply #73 on: November 05, 2017, 09:58:21 PM »
Will the 462 have something similar to huskys air injection? That's really my only real complaint with the 461. Couple times a day gotta tap the dust of the filter...
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« Reply #74 on: November 05, 2017, 11:12:55 PM »
Will the 462 have something similar to huskys air injection? That's really my only real complaint with the 461. Couple times a day gotta tap the dust of the filter...
Yes it will Maine.
The Ms261 CM ll and MS362CM ll already have it.
It's called "Pre-seperation air filtration system."
Actually the MS441 was the first Stihl to come out with it over 10 years ago.
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Re: Any news on the MS 462?
« Reply #75 on: November 21, 2017, 01:36:00 PM »
Hello!
Have you seen this yet.


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« Reply #76 on: November 22, 2017, 09:11:00 AM »
Very nice well done video....But that operator was struggling with it. The chain's depth gauges were way too low.
I would have refused to run it until that problem was fixed.
If it wasn't the depth gauges then they had way too much hook in the cutter side plates.
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« Reply #77 on: November 22, 2017, 11:40:20 AM »
I took a second look at that video and saw what looked like 2 different operators.
The first guy apologized "sorry for the dull Chain."
But in fact it wasn't dull, the chain just had the wrong settings making it too aggressive that's why he was struggling with it.
The second tree that was felled was by what looks like a pro who cuts daily. His helmet screen was always down when cutting and he was smooth on the saw.
The chain was cutting good and from seeing his bar's Stihl logo was not upside down like the first guy's, he probably resharpened  or replaced the chain.
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« Reply #78 on: November 22, 2017, 12:57:18 PM »
I wondered if the first operator was not used to the felling spikes on that saw.
They looked much larger than 461 etc?

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Re: Any news on the MS 462?
« Reply #79 on: November 22, 2017, 02:26:18 PM »
The guy in that last video said something about a new chain, does anyone have any info or guess on whats so special about it ?
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