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Pecan
« on: July 20, 2017, 05:55:01 PM »
Got a tree cutter that wants to bring me a pecan log. He said its about 18-20" and I think about 8 ft long. I ask him what he wanted for the log and he's not sure. I've never cut pecan or hickory. I've heard several of you talk too bad about them. I was thinking about getting it and complaining about it later but not sure. I've got some 4 blades to cut with.
 I understand pecan moves a lot while drying. Do you think it worth messing with to cutting slabs? It suppose to have a crotch at the end of the log.
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Re: Pecan
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2017, 06:02:53 PM »
I quarter sawed one recently with success, appears to be drying pretty flat,
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Re: Pecan
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2017, 06:32:42 PM »
Flat sawn, the slabs tend to move a bit during drying.  This is mainly a problem on wider slabs, but for a 20" slab it should not be too bad.  I would suggest milling 3/8" thicker than normal to allow room for clean up.
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Re: Pecan
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2017, 10:12:57 PM »
Beautiful wood.  Very hard.  If you air dry it before kiln drying, you should be OK.  You can't get in hurray.
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Re: Pecan
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2017, 05:20:33 PM »
Powderpost beetles love it too...
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Re: Pecan
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2017, 11:14:56 PM »
As pecan and hickory logs get drier and drier, it becomes much much harder to saw.  Blades dull quickly.
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Re: Pecan
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2017, 10:04:38 AM »
I saw quite a bit of it. Beautiful wood , as all of the above say its moves a little if rushed to dry. I've got 8 o 10 big logs , that need to be sawed. I made sure I sealed the ends shortly after they we bulldozed down. Got some 9/4 air drying. Gonna put it in the kiln soon. Will be the first time for the kiln and me :P :P

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Re: Pecan
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2017, 05:42:15 AM »
Well that deal failed threw, but I went yesterday to look at another one and came back with 23 pecan logs from 10 to 16 ft long. One of the logs was near 40" and a few others also that are too big to cut on mill. I'll have to use my slabber. I think I'll live edge slab everything that's at least 16" wide and cut the others into lumber. After this I might not ever want to see another pecan. I called Richard yesterday and had a bad connection to order a new wheel for my sharpener for 4 Kasco blades I'll try to call him again today. I talk to a guy in Tx the other day that cuts only Pecan. He said to cut 3" thick to try to get 2" thick slabs and apply weigh. I try to post pictures but each time it said failed, not sure about what going on with that. Sometimes I don't have any trouble and next time it will not work.
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Re: Pecan
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2017, 08:52:08 AM »
A guy just down the street not 500' felled over 10 pecan trees just two days ago. He was clearing a line for power lines. Asked if I wanted them. DanG things are WAY to big for my mill and told him no thanks. :D

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Re: Pecan
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2017, 08:59:00 AM »
Hickory prices are actually pretty strong right now.  I'd think a mess of pecan logs would be worth some $, wonder if yellowhammer sells any of that?
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Re: Pecan
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2017, 04:23:46 PM »
Finally got Pecan under mill. My big case had a hard time with it.

 
For drying would I be better putting pecan under fans, in solar kiln or just air drying for awhile before I put in DH kiln?
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Re: Pecan
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2017, 10:54:02 PM »
We sell pecan when we can get it, but it's rare for us.  Most are yard trees with nails, so we don't buy them. 
We do sell a decent amount of hickory, and it's a pain.  Saw them green, and it's not too bad.  Wait until they dry out, and it's blade smoking time.  4, .055 and oil based blade lube will get it done ok.  It's a log, and logs get sawn, one way or the other.   

Pecan log value is not high because it's not commercially logged in quantity and would probably bring hickory prices. 

I don't put hickory under fans, it won't like it.  Basic air drying with lots of weight on top will work.  When I'm sticker stacking hickory, if a board is an obvious bad actor off the mill, it won't get stickered because a board that jacks up the pile will mess up its neighbors.   
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Re: Pecan
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2017, 07:53:13 AM »
I sell a good bit of pecan.  I also cut 9/4 live edge slabs, and I have had very good luck with them.  I air dry at least 9 months, kiln dry them to less than 10%, then put any slabs that are not flat back on the mill before planing and skim cut the top face to get it flat, then plane the slab.  Extra work, but the slabs come out of the planer dead flat and perfect.  I sell them for $7.50 to $8.50 per board foot.   

This is 9/4 square edge stock that shows off the pretty heartwood.  The turkey call makers like it, too.



 
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2017, 08:40:34 AM »
Danny in the past I've been stickering at 24" but notice on some poplar slabs with a limb or knot was at they move down more there. So in the future I'm going to make sure I have stickers under them and hope that helps. But I was thinking about sticker every 12". What has work best for you?
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2017, 09:24:55 AM »
We do know that 12" spacing assures the flattest lumber possible.  As a good compromise, use 12' space for the ends of the pile and 24" after the first three stickers. 

I also see quite a few people use two stickers at the end of a pile, spaced an inch apart.  This helps stop end checks when end coating is not used, and also allows for last sticker to move or fall out without creating a disaster.
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Re: Pecan
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2017, 07:10:59 PM »
All my pallets are standard at 16" sticker spacing. 
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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2017, 11:28:32 PM »
All my pallets are standard at 16" sticker spacing. 
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« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2017, 08:12:14 AM »
I sell a good bit of pecan.  I also cut 9/4 live edge slabs, and I have had very good luck with them.  I air dry at least 9 months, kiln dry them to less than 10%, then put any slabs that are not flat back on the mill before planing and skim cut the top face to get it flat, then plane the slab.  Extra work, but the slabs come out of the planer dead flat and perfect.  I sell them for $7.50 to $8.50 per board foot.   

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Re: Pecan
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2017, 05:24:01 AM »
Sometimes in the past someone put some rocks in the tree. I found them. Would like to send them a bill for my chain. >:(

 
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Re: Pecan
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2017, 07:10:56 AM »
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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2017, 08:10:46 AM »
Well, those rocks will take the fun right out of it.
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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2017, 09:48:54 AM »
Pecan and fun are not two words allowable in the same sentence  :)
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Re: Pecan
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2017, 04:25:37 PM »
Rocks in a tree crotch will also ruin a bandsaw blade.
 

 
And it doesn't have to be large.   :-\
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« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2017, 05:36:14 PM »
If my rocks was in a tree,you would see them.  :D
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« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2017, 09:44:05 PM »
I cut these pecan slabs about 3 months ago, some are 28"
 

 
So far they are staying flat
 

 

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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2017, 07:24:38 AM »
Those are nice!
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« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2017, 05:43:03 PM »
I love seeing Ambrosia Beetle holes in Pecan.  Much "Pecan" furniture is marked with black ink dots, etc. to mimic those holes.
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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2017, 06:57:33 PM »
They love pecan and hickory. 
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