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Offline Peter Drouin

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Re: Wallenstein Tractor Winch
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2017, 05:20:54 PM »
The other thing you can do is cut the butt end of the tree at an angle instead of flat. That way the end of the tree will skip over or slide over to one side on rocks, stumps.
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« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2017, 04:12:11 PM »
Wow! Alot of good tips on setting the chokers and pulling in logs from everyone that posted. You are guaranteed to learn something on this site each time you visit.  Cfarm, really like the suggestion about setting the hook low, that will make getting those hidden branches cut much easier.

Ill post back after I use it, and give a quick review. Hopefully this weekend it will be dry enough to work in the woods. Again thanks for comments, suggestions and advice. Its all good stuff.

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Re: Wallenstein Tractor Winch
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2017, 10:36:28 PM »
Mounted the FX85, took measurements and cut both drive shafts a week ago. Ive used the FX85 for about 8 hours since then. It operates smoothly, has good pulling power and is a well built unit as far as I can tell. I purchased the snatch block as well and have used it more than I anticipated.

The first log I pulled was an ash about 18"DBH, full length. I dropped it in my field so the skid was short. Had a pic but the forum won't upload it. Over all I'm pleased. The lower 3 point connections are wider than the arm sockets, so the winch shifts from side to side at times. The stabilizer arms are adjusted correctly. I think I'll make bushing/spacers and post pictures. Here is one from today.

 

After running the FX85 on my 3240 kubota, I believe it's a good match and don't think it's too large. The snatch block, works well, only issue I've had was the cable slipped between the pulley and the block as I started winch. Had to loosen the pulley bolt and unlodge the cable. Not a major deal but if you don't have the right tools in the woods than it's a minor annoyance. I plan to weld a small plate to fill in the gap. I will need to bypass the seat switch on the kubota, have to be in the seat whenever operating the winch.

I'll post better pictures in the next few weeks. Next thing is to add oil and gas storage along with chainsaw storage to the tractor. Then an actual brush guard to the front and protection plates for the filters. Minor damage to the 550xp, broken brake handle, due to lack of storage on the tractor.

Switching gears figured some of you might enjoy this. It's a 1 cubic yard scraper pan, fairly small but it's working well, moving the sludge from the ditch dregding. 

 

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Re: Wallenstein Tractor Winch
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2017, 12:05:56 AM »
Minor damage to the 550xp, broken brake handle, due to lack of storage on the tractor.

Been there, done that. Replaced with a used handle purchased from Chainsawr.com
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Re: Wallenstein Tractor Winch
« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2017, 01:59:36 AM »
STORAGE:

looks like the top of your rear fenders are flat. i put plastic crates on my Mahindra
 

 

here are some nice chainsaw scabbards

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Re: Wallenstein Tractor Winch
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2017, 02:10:54 AM »
...I will need to bypass the seat switch on the kubota, have to be in the seat whenever operating the winch.

I'll post better pictures in the next few weeks. Next thing is to add oil and gas storage along with chainsaw storage to the tractor. Then an actual brush guard to the front and protection plates for the filters. Minor damage to the 550xp, broken brake handle, due to lack of storage on the tractor.........

the "seat switch" is a bad safety idea

I have been thinking of using a pickup bed liner for a belly protector for my tractor.
won't stop everything but will stop 90%
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Re: Wallenstein Tractor Winch
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2017, 08:27:20 AM »
Find some 1/2" uhmw commercial cutting boards.  They make slick and indestructible belly skids. 
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Re: Wallenstein Tractor Winch
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2017, 08:47:24 AM »
That's an odd setup for a switch. On my NH if I set the brake and put it in neutral, I can run the pto without being on the seat.
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Re: Wallenstein Tractor Winch
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2017, 10:18:01 AM »
After running the FX85 on my 3240 kubota, I believe it's a good match and don't think it's too large. The snatch block, works well, only issue I've had was the cable slipped between the pulley and the block as I started winch. Had to loosen the pulley bolt and unlodge the cable.


Glad you are liken the new winch.!!
I had my cable jam between the sheave and snatch block body once. Not fun plus it ruined the cable. I welded a shot piece of curved rod so it couldn't happen again. Maybe something like that will work on yours.

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« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2017, 12:24:14 PM »
Find some 1/2" uhmw commercial cutting boards.  They make slick and indestructible belly skids.
good idea if you can find them cheap enough.

a full 4x8x1/2 sheet is about $400

a used bedliner is about $100 or less. I agree a 1/2 inch sheet is better but.......
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Re: Wallenstein Tractor Winch
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2017, 09:01:01 PM »
Some of the Kubotas you flip the seat over onto the steering wheel to run the pto stationary.  Worth a shot before you start cutting wires. HTH
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Re: Wallenstein Tractor Winch
« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2017, 09:13:50 AM »
New uhmw is pricey, i will give you that. 

Im blessed/cursed with getting expensive junk cheap or free.   Once you get past that dumpster smell, you got it licked.
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« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2017, 12:29:40 PM »
New uhmw is pricey, i will give you that. 

Im blessed/cursed with getting expensive junk cheap or free.   Once you get past that dumpster smell, you got it licked.

i have dumpster dived a lot.
blessed/cursed, i call it direct re-cycling and a blessing  8)
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Re: Wallenstein Tractor Winch
« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2017, 12:40:08 PM »
The bedliner idea is a very good one. I like the UHMW / HDPE but it is very pricey and can be heavy. not that that matters on a tractor. But I come from an offroad background. Lighter is better.
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« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2017, 06:26:29 PM »
hey I don't have parts for that so be careful  :D :D glad you like your set up  I like the scraper pan thing

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Re: Wallenstein Tractor Winch
« Reply #35 on: December 24, 2017, 07:17:19 PM »
Some of the Kubotas you flip the seat over onto the steering wheel to run the pto stationary.  Worth a shot before you start cutting wires. HTH

ScottAR, I tried this today and it works on my Kubota. I didnt use the winch just tested it. It seems like its more of pain then having to stay in the seat. Ill try it out in the woods. Thank you for the tip.

TheCFarm, I tried setting the Pbrake and putting in Neutral, doesn't seem to work on my tractor. It was worth a shot. Your correct, this winch is awesome.

DDW, Ill be posting some pictures soon of the storage and protection progress on the tractor. Good ideas for you and other members. Thank you

Gman, Good suggestion on the snatch block. I tore mine apart and found (3) bushings used in the assembly. I milled on of them down to decrease the grap by almost 1/16th between the pulley and the block. Its worked very well so far. Unfortunately I didnt take pictures of this.

Paul, you sure there isnt a kubota axle or PTO shaft of the winch laying around your property? Maybe under that Petibone or the dozer? No tires for the scraper??? LOL, some day Ill make progress on the C4, the trip to NY was a good haul for that weekend. Dad kept telling me, when it comes to moving dirt, there is more dirt/work there than it looks...he was right. The pan is handy though.

Very glad I went with the FX85, instead of the FX66. The winch is slightly oversized for the tractor as it will pull logs the tractor wont skid, Im talking large logs. However with plate sunk into the ground it can pull those logs out, and then bucked and skidded. Everyone has a preference for their set up. In the pictures is an ash it pulled out into the field before I bucked it. it measured about 34" widest point. Whats not seen is the 6 plus foot of BAD rot that I cut off before winching. Was a little nervous when I started the back cut on that one. I bored in from both sides cleared out about 1/2 the wood, then set the hinge, then moved to the remaining holding wood, about 10" in the back, just started back cutting and POP! No time to set wedges. Took out a 18"DBH soft maple I was trying to save. Im cutting all the dead Ash and Elm plus anything that is dead standing, or has its top knocked out. Local small saw mill will take down to 8" for pallet logs. At least Im making a little money as the woods is not ready for a harvest. Plus its very enjoyable.


 

For perspective, saw on the left is 154se sporting a 20" chipper set up. Saw on the right is a 281xp wearing a 28" full round chisel set up. 

 

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Re: Wallenstein Tractor Winch
« Reply #36 on: December 26, 2017, 09:01:57 PM »
Great choice.  I bought the FX85 last year and the dealer was only 30 minutes away.  I also grabbed 2 self releasing snatch blocks that are well made.  Mine is mounted to a New Holland 1920 with a FEL.

So far I have put about 5 triaxle loads of gypsy moth killed oak on the landing and I did pull a big 38" dbh ash tree in 10' sections up a very steep hill to a band mill.

The receiver hitch is great too.

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