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Home made wood burning tool. pyrography
« on: December 18, 2017, 01:04:49 AM »
Started making a high powered pyrography tool today.
Anyone else into wood burning?

 

 
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Re: Home made wood burning tool. pyrography
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2017, 04:20:26 AM »
You making the one where you can do the lictenburg( i know my spelling is way wrong on that) figures?  Using a neon sign transformer?
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2017, 05:50:58 AM »
I used an oil burner transformer for mine.  Works well and relatively safe.

 
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2017, 07:17:17 AM »
You making the one where you can do the lictenburg( i know my spelling is way wrong on that) figures?  Using a neon sign transformer?

? Tell me more....  A neon sign transformer is high voltage.
The transformer I'm using is from 1 to 5 volts.

I have made Jacobs ladders using sign transformers.
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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2017, 09:43:11 AM »
I used an oil burner transformer for mine.  Works well and relatively safe.

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I think this answers my question in your post related to axes your class made.

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Re: Home made wood burning tool. pyrography
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2017, 09:49:29 AM »
You making the one where you can do the lictenburg( i know my spelling is way wrong on that) figures?  Using a neon sign transformer?

? Tell me more....  A neon sign transformer is high voltage.
The transformer I'm using is from 1 to 5 volts.

I have made Jacobs ladders using sign transformers.




Kevin you can also use microwave transformers.  Pretty cool stuff. Just google you will see the end product

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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2017, 10:20:02 AM »
As I stated above, I used an oil burner transformer.  Cheap to free in northern regions but most importantly only have 20miliamps or so which is a relatively harmless amount.  Not saying it can't throw your heart out of rhythm so try to avoid being shocked, but in most situations you will be fine.

Microwave transformers are another matter.  They typically have amperage levels that will kill you dead and for that reason I wouldn't go near one for this application.  Stick with neon sign or oil burner units.

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Re: Home made wood burning tool. pyrography
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2017, 10:37:38 AM »
Do a google search on Lichtenberg art.
Really cool stuff.
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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2017, 01:01:31 PM »
Yes, a microwave transformer probably will kill you with one slip up. To many amps.
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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2017, 01:28:09 PM »
Ok... This in what I'm using. I think I got real lucky with my junkyard find.
I'm always bringing home thing to take apart just to play with. When i got this
I wasn't sure what it was. It was a wire stripper. From what I can find the
transformer inside is 115 volts primary and from 1 to 5 volts secondary.
Somewhere around 10KVA. I'm using a carbon arc torch for my pen. This is
going to be one BIG wood burning toy. With the low voltage I have no worry
about getting shocked.

My power supply.

 

 

 

 

My pen.

 

 

This is 6 inches of #12 ga. wire on setting #2. I'm adding a variac in line with the
power supply for fine voltage adjustment.

 

 

Amp draw from the primary side when turning the wire red is 6.5 amps.

 

 

Power supply weighs almost 46 lbs.

 

 


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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2017, 08:55:28 PM »
AAW (wood turning association) banned lichtenberg anything cause somebody died.  I think their was more than one.

I made a wood burner from a 12v battery charger.  Used nichrome 16 & 18 gauge wire for my pen.  My battery charger doesn't have enough power for any heavier of wire.  I mostly use it to sign my work, sometimes when I turn a boring bowl I use it to add interest.  Bend the wire to make little designs.  My work is more like hieroglyphics as I don't have the talent for anything else.

I teach informal shop class to several kids.  They really like the wood burning part and give the burner a work out.

I bought one of those carbon arc torches about 30 years ago.  I thought I could braze with it.  One use and it rests in a drawer....ready for the next project. :D
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2017, 10:05:31 PM »
Wow... This is all new to me....


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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2017, 11:54:22 PM »
Looked at doing this a while ago, but didn't follow through.  I had a friend do some boards for me, and other random pieces and they looked cool but didn't sell well. A little too abstract.

I did get a call from a guy who wanted me to burn some pieces of maple sticks to make a lightning pattern and sell to him as Harry Potter wands so he could sell them at Cosplay type events.  I never spooled up to do it. 
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« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2017, 07:12:15 AM »
THAT GUY IS USING A MICROWAVE TRANSFORMER THAT CAN KILL YOU QUITE EASILY!!!  That said, I do like his setup  with the clamps and it appears he gets away from the work when it it is energized.  Moving the contact points before the burns connect is a good way to get a large design that you have some control over, but  I don't like the look of the finished product if it goes overboard.  A little goes a long way in my opinion.  To increase conductivity, I use baking soda, about a teaspoon per 16oz of water as my solution.  Let it soak in a bit and not stand on the surface.  The more it soaks or the higher the concentration of baking soda, the deeper the burns. I like the lighter more detailed burns so tend to wipe on wipe off.   DO NOT use salt water as that creates chlorine gas like used in the trenches of WWI.

A neon sign transformer or oil burner ignition transformer puts out sufficient voltage but without the amps, so that is the way I would go.  I have personally been jolted many times over the years by them in a variety of situations and witnessed countless others do the same thing and never any ill effects. That said, whenever you are shocked, tuning  up your snowmobile, electric fence or otherwise, there is always a risk of arrhythmia.  So use caution when working with electricity (duh)
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« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2017, 08:39:50 AM »
Electrical toys is one of my winter time hobbies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2017, 08:50:58 AM »
if you attach the legs of that transformer of yours to two leads you will be in the lichtenburg biz...
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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2017, 09:56:12 AM »
Spent hour or better yesterday watching utubes of this practice. Very interesting!  Saw some neat stuff being created.  One person used a microwave transformer to burn deeper and wider due to higher current.  Then used an oil burner igniter for more veining. 
The creation was a tree.  The trunk and branches were with the microwave.  Then the oil burner was used to create small branches / leaves off the main structure.
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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2017, 12:55:22 PM »
A guy I work with does this in his garage using the microwave transformer.
High voltage and open leads. Very dangerous.
Please be careful with this stuff guys.

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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2017, 08:07:12 PM »
I might try this neon sign transformer. It only weights 80lbs.
If I put a variac transformer on the input line I can control the burn.
So it looks like I'm building two machines.

 

 

 

 
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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2017, 03:51:10 AM »
I used an oil burner transformer for mine.  Works well and relatively safe.

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Mind sharing what your set-up looks like?  Got an old burner gun in a shed, might be an interesting thing to do later this winter when I get caught up with my other projects.
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