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coxy

normal to get leg and arm cramps when working when its supper hot  never had this before  I drink tons of water

sandsawmill14

you may need to eat some bananas or drink gatorade/powerade its most likely your potassium is low ??? i went through that week before last and was dehydrated as well they gave me 2 potassium pills per day and i feel like a different man :) water is the best to drink but if you dont eat good balanced meals several vitamins and minerals can get depleted and it seems the older i get the more it affects me :-\  hope you get to feeling better :)
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Ianab

Yup, if you are actually working in the heat you need more than just water.

Those "sports" drinks are sort of a have, unless you are actually working and need the electrolytes. Then alternating water and Gatorade through the day can help.

There are other options of course, but if you are working hard enough to break into a sweat, then extra electrolytes will probably help.
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ellmoe

  I'm in Central Florida, I have had a little experience with heat and cramps! I eaten bananas, drank water and low calorie "sports" drinks (this is where Gatorade was created, after all ) and they helped. I still had bad cramps, though. I started taking magnesium this year and they have all but gone away. As" The Monkees " said, I'm a Believer.
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sandsawmill14

doc must be fishing ;D i thought he might have weighed in on this and gave us all some useful info :)
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Ron Scott

Similar to what ellmoe said; I also find magnesium to be helpful.
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Ron Wenrich

If you take magnesium, you want magnesium malate.  Usually its magnesium citrate, which doesn't absorb too well.  Other things that can effect it is calcium.  If its too low, you can cramp up, or if its too high you can cramp.  I've been dealing with cramps for a long time.  Finally getting it under control with magnesium, water, and eating a bit less cheese. 
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Dave Shepard

It was suggested to me that I should get Gatorade concentrate, and mix it pretty stiff. I firmly believe that the more times you get dehydrated, the more susceptible you are to getting dehydrated again. I have a really low tolerance for working in hot weather.
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Member Okrafarmer posted July 2 2014 Muscle Cramps lots of good ideas on that post
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elk42

Get a blood test and see what your system needs and get prescription, then drink water and sports drinks. With 90° and 95° with 70%  humidity and also working in paper mills in places 110°15 min. work smiley_sick cool for 30 min I been there. smiley_devil_trident   
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coxy

Quote from: sandsawmill14 on June 03, 2016, 07:13:50 AM
you may need to eat some bananas or drink gatorade/powerade its most likely your potassium is low ??? i went through that week before last and was dehydrated as well they gave me 2 potassium pills per day and i feel like a different man :) water is the best to drink but if you dont eat good balanced meals several vitamins and minerals can get depleted and it seems the older i get the more it affects me :-\  hope you get to feeling better :)
sorry for not posting was at hunting camp for our work/drunk party :D I cant/ wont drink Gatorade I was drinking 4 different kinds of it and broke out in vary vary bad hives and don't want to go through that again  after I had back surgery I had back/leg cramps  and was told to drink selzerwater with quine (don't know how it spelt) that worked like a charm but they don't put it in there anymore and really don't want to take any more pills if I can help it  ill try some of what every one posted about

ellmoe

Quote from: Ron Wenrich on June 04, 2016, 04:54:17 PM
If you take magnesium, you want magnesium malate.  Usually its magnesium citrate, which doesn't absorb too well.  Other things that can effect it is calcium.  If its too low, you can cramp up, or if its too high you can cramp.  I've been dealing with cramps for a long time.  Finally getting it under control with magnesium, water, and eating a bit less cheese.

  I take Mag. Bisglycinate Chelate, also supposed to be easily absorbed. My wife buys it online from www.VivaLabs.com.
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Carson-saws

electrolytes indeed,  yet "one mans fuel is another mans poison".just be careful in accordance to your metabolism.  Are you diabetic , hypo or hyperglycemic.  Very much like your mill your bod need fuel and the proper kind...like octane grades and such.  I am aware that most of the mills run generally the same HP but do any of you choose to run different octanes.  Inab hit it right and it is the "best way" to start out and see the results.  Of course unless ya pass out or something.
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FirewoodFactory

If cramping is a problem then definitely stay away from boozie..even after work. 

Beer was our energy drink of choice years ago and while it is good for that, there is more bad about it than there is good... besides intoxication, it WILL bring on cramps if you're prone to them.

My goodness, what used to go on....if you worked for my father then you were given shandys....I worked with some Swedes who provided their men with beer.  They'd take a few tall cans and climb the scaffolding and work away...on their sites, even when there wasn't a Cloud to be seen, water would fall from the sky. :P

Cozy, seltzer with quinine is called tonic water where I live....I love the stuff.

For the record:. I was reminiscing and don't condone drinking any amount while working...except for mowing the lawn at home... which I just did...during which I did.
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coxy

Quote from: FirewoodFactory on June 05, 2016, 10:40:14 PM
If cramping is a problem then definitely stay away from boozie..even after work. 

Beer was our energy drink of choice years ago and while it is good for that, there is more bad about it than there is good... besides intoxication, it WILL bring on cramps if you're prone to them.

My goodness, what used to go on....if you worked for my father then you were given shandys....I worked with some Swedes who provided their men with beer.  They'd take a few tall cans and climb the scaffolding and work away...on their sites, even when there wasn't a Cloud to be seen, water would fall from the sky. :P

Cozy, seltzer with quinine is called tonic water where I live....I love the stuff.

For the record:. I was reminiscing and don't condone drinking any amount while working...except for mowing the lawn at home... which I just did...during which I did.
welcome to the FF   seltzer water and tonic water is different here but the seltzer with quinine  did do the trick  1 16oz bottle a month cant seem to get the tonic water down  :) :)

Logger RK

I have discovered to much Old Milwaukee will give you skull cramps also 8)

Straightgrain

I may miss or double-tap something, but heat related injuries is something I dealt with for two decades...easy to save and loose a life....my apologies in advance.

Cramps, nausea, and dizziness are a leading indicators of heat exhaustion.

A proper diet definately goes a long way towards having all the nutrients in the body  (and ready) for use; "suffice to say" ....eat a healthy diet (less grease and fats) and lay off the sodas, booze, caffeine, & tobacco products before and during physical activities....+ on the salts and other minerals like potassium.

Stop to stretch, snack, and rest for 10 minutes every hour. Drink water regularly, not in bulk (get and use a camel back). 1 quart per half hour was the most extreme situation I dealt-with in the SE states. Long sleeve shirts help to prevent sweat evaporation.

When I was a Platoon Sergeant, I would pass out centrum vitamins (among other things like threats of the indignifying rectal IVs....) on the long marches (aka humps) to help keep my "Joes" on their feet...most young men seemed to be able to store more nutrient reserves in their bodies than would some men in their 40s ....+.

Foam or bubbles in clear urine can be an indicator of slight dehydration, yellow urine is definately a sign of dehydration. Drastic pulse fluctuations when going from sitting to standing.... can = dehydration.

A person who suddenly quits sweating can be going into heat stroke.

If need be, learn how to administer an IV and have ringers lactate and an IV kit nearby. Done correctly, an IV can save a life. In the most severe cases (collapsed veins) IVs can go "up" as an enema; water absorbs much faster through the intestinal walls.
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Czech_Made

I like coconut water as source of potasium.

Weak beer was/is served at steel plants in my old country.

doctorb

As can be seen by the remedies and preventive solutions offered on this thread and the previous one on the same subject, there is no absolute answer here.  Certainly, the issue of good hydration and available electrolytes is part of it.  But there is no one equation to help each of us every day from cramps, and there's no perfect solution once they occur.  So drink a lot of fluids,  replace those electrolytes, and pay attention to your body when you're working hard in hot weather.
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Carson-saws

doctorb..Well said Sir...pretty much sums it right up.
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Dave Shepard

The only sure fire way to avoid dehydration and cramps is to stay inside by the AC and drink iced tea. :)
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Hijacked content: Magicman, I have no firewood factory.  It's a joke where I work in a resaw mill and what can't be recovered is sold as firewood.    Sometimes I get a stack that makes me feel that way.

Relevant content:. As the season progresses one should adapt and not lose so much salt when they sweat.  Sure you lose it, but not like in the first weeks.  Persevere the perspiration pains!
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