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General Forestry => Sawmills and Milling => Topic started by: Bruno of NH on July 10, 2018, 07:52:39 PM

Title: Wood shingles
Post by: Bruno of NH on July 10, 2018, 07:52:39 PM
Has anyone made any from fir,
Hemlock or spruce we have in New England?
Title: Re: Wood shingles
Post by: moodnacreek on July 10, 2018, 09:38:00 PM
The old timers said straight grained white pine was almost as good as cedar.
Title: Re: Wood shingles
Post by: Chuck White on July 11, 2018, 07:07:24 AM
I think the shingles that were on the barn roof, on the farm where we grew up were Hemlock!
Title: Re: Wood shingles
Post by: bandmiller2 on July 11, 2018, 07:44:32 AM
As Moodnacreek says a lot of shingles were made from white pine. Pine shingles should be stained or painted otherwise they will turn black. Even untreated they will last a long time if they can dry out. I have cut a lot of them to utilize the tops of pine cut for logs. It seems there is 16" between the nodes on pine tops. Brother Bruno I don't see why you cant use hemlock or fir but I don't know for sure. Frank C.
Title: Re: Wood shingles
Post by: shinnlinger on July 11, 2018, 10:04:50 AM
My whole house is untreated white pine and the dormers and upper gables got white pine shingles.  I was told that is what we used to use around here.  Too bad you don't have any white pine.....
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Title: Re: Wood shingles
Post by: Bruno of NH on July 11, 2018, 10:19:28 AM
Dave
I got so much white pine I'm selling logs to the mill  :D
Title: Re: Wood shingles
Post by: shinnlinger on July 11, 2018, 11:16:56 AM
I know....  trying to make light of it...  Bust out the shingle jig and get sawing...  Native Wooden Shingles!
Title: Re: Wood shingles
Post by: beav on July 11, 2018, 11:54:53 AM
White pine heart wood is somewhat decay resistant
Title: Re: Wood shingles
Post by: Hilltop366 on July 11, 2018, 12:09:07 PM
Had a guy tell me he has 100 year old spruce shingles on his barn, also have heard that a species of spruce that grows in wet areas were good for shingles but can't remember fo sure what it is. Thinking maybe Black Spruce?
Title: Re: Wood shingles
Post by: moodnacreek on July 11, 2018, 12:45:46 PM
The Norway spruce we get down here I would never use. Red spruce I would be afraid of and black I can't say.  Sound, slow growth hemlock should work. I call it poor mans cedar.
Title: Re: Wood shingles
Post by: Bruno of NH on July 11, 2018, 02:44:31 PM
Dave
My shingles will be locally harvested organic Wood shingles  :D
Title: Re: Wood shingles
Post by: Iwawoodwork on July 13, 2018, 12:18:24 PM
Here in western Oregon, Red Cedar is the most used, however old Growth straight grain Douglas fir was also used. my uncle had a large old chicken house 40'+ long) that was roofed in hand split vertical grain fir shakes and was probably 30-40 years old in the late 1950's, roof was not rotten and did not leak.
Title: Re: Wood shingles
Post by: crowhill on July 14, 2018, 10:38:45 AM
I always thought the key to any wood roof shingle lasting was to have both sides exposed enabling it to dry completely??
Title: Re: Wood shingles
Post by: moodnacreek on July 14, 2018, 10:01:28 PM
Crow hill, that's where a lot of roofs are put on wrong. Fast drying is the key. Zinc or copper ridge caps are helpful also.
Title: Re: Wood shingles
Post by: bandmiller2 on July 16, 2018, 07:03:13 AM
Some of the old timers put a Vee trough at the peak of the roof and put ground limestone in it to keep the roof shingle light. Frank C.
Title: Re: Wood shingles
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 16, 2018, 12:47:38 PM
If I get time I will get my shingle mill going.


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Title: Re: Wood shingles
Post by: shinnlinger on July 17, 2018, 10:58:45 AM
I was ogling that beauty when I was down to your place. I cut mine on an 1880's Lane Shingle mill over in Canterbury or some such.
Title: Re: Wood shingles
Post by: jason.weir on July 20, 2018, 11:23:45 PM
Quote from: shinnlinger on July 17, 2018, 10:58:45 AM
I was ogling that beauty when I was down to your place. I cut mine on an 1880's Lane Shingle mill over in Canterbury or some such.
it was at least 5 miles from Canterbury - much closer to Chichester..  :)

How are you doing btw?

Sorry Bruno for the hijack..  I've taken pine shingles off 150+ year old buildings that looked to be in really rough shape but looked brand new on the back side.

Remember a 16" shingle, put up 4" to the weather has 4 layers of wood, an inch or more thick before you get to the boards behind it...  An old yankee sayin says, "a man who puts up pine shingles won't live long enough to have to replace them"

BTW that Chase of Peter's has a much better feed design than the friction wheel on my Lane...

-J
Title: Re: Wood shingles
Post by: shinnlinger on July 30, 2018, 07:52:00 PM
Sorry Jason, that was some time ago, at least I don't think Concord!  but a neat experience I was glad to participate in.  Glad you got it up and sawing again.