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As was stated on another thread, the FF Express is back in business! 8)
This time with a whatzit. :)
This pic may be just a touch blurry, but I didn't want to make it easy. ;D

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Good luck! :D

boot track

Pigeon weld.... ;D ;D ;D

A close-up chunk of what was presure washed off of kevjays mill after delivery??  ::)

The map you been useing :D :D :D

  Amount of tread left on the tire after the smoke show ...  8)

Week old road kill possom.

DanG,  I really hate to admit it,  but the gentleman from Texas is the closest so far :D :D

I know what it is! Is it a basket yet?

Beaver tail?

Is it reptillian?

It's a cow patty 8) ;D

No they didn't give me any clues. :)

It is something that has been burned,melted?

Well roasted armadillo ??? :D

The crud stuck on the outside of a good frying pan

looks like a snapping turtle shell ;D

What ever it is ,it looks like it got runt over with a heavy truck.

I don't know,  Furby,  maybe this was a mistake ::)  The way these guys are describing it ain't gonna make it bring any more in the auction :D :D :D  At least it's been dead long enough that it don't stink too bad anymore :o :o  That's more than I can say for the cow patties that you were looking at to take home to Mrs. Stump Jumper ;)

Them patties were a little too fresh eh?
Hope she likes them! ;D

Looks like a casting or a bullet(spent)

Solidified turpintine.

Is it ceramic or ceramic glaze on a clay or potery object? ::)

Otherwise, maybe a close up of your chain saw cylinder wall after forgeting to add the oil to the gas?  :D :D :D

A half rotted armadillo shell and it hadn't better be in the cab of my truck.

As far as the cow patties you may be in over your head. :o

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I'd a thought the horse people would have recognized that right off-----well maybe they are out of style now :-\

...outta style now........

the horse or the 'horse people'   ::) ???

Nother clue.........
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Think OLD. ;)

Old military guys like Tom and DanG and Staples might have used one of these-------if they had ben born a little earlier :D :D

somethin you birds found at Mr. Hooties!!!!!!!  World War I gas mask.

Is it an old cast bullet or artillery round?

Looks like it could be out of a mess kit ........ or maybe a tire rim.  :)

Well you guys are all getting a little closer that a dead armadillo,  but you got a long ways to go ;D  Don,  were you talking about WWI or our first war?

Furby's kodac makes that thing look awfully worn,  but it's still in operating condition.

A McClellan saddle?

WAG, I know  ::)

Shore looks a bunch like an old dry piece a leather to me.  ::)

Wheel off an old vehicle, cannot place it as a personnel mover or an armor/artillery.

Quote from: Furby on February 21, 2007, 08:19:29 PM
Nother clue.........
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Think OLD. ;)

Chariot wheel with runned over remains of slow runners and/or poor dodgers.

Here's another clue:
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It's blurry, but the flash makes it a dead give away, so I had to go with blurry. ;D

Ye ol double barrel.........

Dead Sea Scrolls...

Gattling gun?

Looks to me like it might be an ammo belt

Could it be a pair of binoculars?

What my granpappy called a "catridge" belt.

Powder or water kegs? They also look like cream cans.

Catridge Belt  :D :D :D :D

Well,  that is getting a little warmer.  but you're gonna have to do better if this is ever going to be IDed so it can be put on the FF auction.  Remember what Furby said about thinking old,  and I believe you have overlooked the 'horse' clue ;)

Now that crafty old Furbmiester might come along with his tricky Kodac and make you think you're back to dealing with a dead armadillo :D :D  (that's a hint Furb ;))  :D :D

Could be horse harness, and be similar to the McLellan saddle mentioned earlier.
But at this point, all are wild guesses. Could be anything.  :)

Saddle bags from the old calvary days.

Nope Beenthere,  it ain't a Mclellan saddle----McLellan might have had one of these though if he liked old guns and military junque :D :D

TR,  when we said 'think old' we didn't mean plumb back to CALVARY days :o :o  You were warmer with 'catridges'  although the kind your Grandpappy was thinking of didn't exist when the whatzit was used.  When Jeff works up the description of it for the auction,  he may very well use some of the words you guys have used------old leather,  powder,  horses, and yes, even 'catridges'  :D :D

Is it a powder can?

Sorry Bro. don't have any dead ones, will a live one work?
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That segmented fool don't look nothin like a possum!

Powder monkey belt.

I nailed one of them poor ugly suckers this morning ,come around the curve and there he was in the middle of the road. He would have been ok if he would have stayed low but they got the bad habit of jumping straight in the air when they get scared. That aint healthy when a truck is passing over you. :-\

Get a few more of them. We have plenty.

Jeff ....dats justa possum in armour. 8)

I know this one won't help a whole lot, but I'm getting low on options. ::)
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Never seen alligator hide up real close, but dat sure looks like what I'd think it was like, in da last pic.

Twin powder horn for loading double barrel guns?

fusiliers belt.

Tell ya what, I will throw in this easy bonus, not for sale on Ebay, just for fun.  But, ya gotta be precise.  Besides, I'm stumped on this one by Bro Noble.

A catchers mit with a coin slot.

a broomhandle holder?

TexasRanger, It is a saddle or horse harness.  Normally there is a strip pf leather is threaded through the brass opening.

Saddle showing the position of slots for the leather thongs. Seems similar to TR's pic.  :)

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SAme saddle, a McClellan.  11 1/8 seat.

Just reminding everyone that Furby's and Bro Nobel's whatzit hasn't been solved. :)

I thought we solved it several times......just Furby won't fess up to dem...... ;D

I hope if Furby ever posts a picture of it I will be able to remember what it is-----I didn't recognize any of the picture he posted except the hardshelled possom.

The ranger's saddle reminds me that I've got an old sidesaddle somewhere,  wonder where it went"

more pics furby

What if I don't wanna post any more pics ???

 smiley_bull_stomp smiley_hanged bat_smailey smiley_whip ;D

Furby,  you didn't hock that whatzit to get a shave and a haircut did you? :o :o :o  Oh well,  if you did,  I'm still happy :D :D

BITE ME! :D

Now iff'n ya can't figure out what it is from these pics.......... I can't help ya!!! :D

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I suspect that is one of those 1800s marine leather wrapped mickey style wine flagons with the stylish cigarette holders on the side.

sawwdust.

Santa Anna's artificial leg?  :D :D

Judging by the tooth marks in the cedar board, this thing is 6-8 inches long.  It's shape seems to be an effort to conform to the human body.  It doesn't look to be a conveyance of liquids.  I'm thinking it to be a "powder horn" type of device for carrying gunpowder.  Being older than me opens up a lot of territory, seeing as how I'm such a youngster, but I can imagine it being used by cavalryman with a Sharps Carbine.  The powder charges were created ahead of time and wrapped in paper.  The containers on the side of the "powder horn" may have held these charges.  Since the Sharps was a single shot, there would have to be a few handy for an unplanned fire fight.

That's my guess.

Well that's not bad Tom. :)
Bro. Noble is the one that knows for sure what it is..... I forgot. ::)
I do know that it is 11.5" long so you are pretty close on that part.

A specimen bottle for a civil war surgeon.  Specifically, the urologist assigned to Sherman.

My last guess, a shot pouch.

Well, Tom,  you kinda described the making of the first 'catridges' :D :D  Keep thinking along that line ;D  You just about got those tubes figgered out.

TR, here's a clue just for you-----It's too old to be a broomhandle holder ;)

You guys are forgetting to think old-----pre civil war,  and remember this was packed by a horse :)

Quote from: Furby on February 27, 2007, 04:31:21 PM
BITE ME! :D

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Am early version of a monocular?

The tubes may have been mounts,was it made to hold a flag staff?

The tubes may have held forms to role the early paper cartridges around to give it the base.  The flask may have held the mixture of salt peter and water to soak the papers in for complete combustion.

Let me give you a little history on paper cartridges.  This may be something that Jeff will want to use when he advertises the whatzit on e-bay. 

paper 'cartouches'  pronounced 'kattiges' by some of our early Americans,  were developed soon after the hand cannon developed into the musket.  They were used from about 1575 to about 1865 to speed up the loading process during battle conditions.  A charge of powder and a lead ball were rolled in a piece of paper and folded, twisted, or glued at the ends and stored for the time when needed.  When used,  the end was torn off, a little powder placed in the priming pan of a flintlock arm, and the rest poured down the barrel,  followed by the ball.

George probably carried a couple of whatzits on his horse,  but not to carry his wooden teeth in :D :D

Bro' that is interesting history. Wow, 300 years. 8)

Ifin I knowed what it was, I might offer a hunnert dollars fer it, being as how it comes from Texas by way of a good ol Mizzou boy.

OK, OK, usually there was a pair of em, riding on either side of the saddle, and one carried a flagon of gin, the other the vermouth, and the little things on the side held the tooth picks with the olive.

For gentlemen soldiers, of course.

 :D :D :D :D

This whole thread gave me an idear for another whazzit? ;D

Quote from: Texas Ranger on February 28, 2007, 06:10:33 PM
OK, OK, usually there was a pair of em, riding on either side of the saddle,

For gentlemen soldiers, of course.

Well,  TR,  this much of what you said will be useful to Jeff :D :D

Say,  how tall was Santa Anna?  Do you reckon that's where this whatzit's mate went?

Noble, I ran down as much Mexican stuff I could, nada, nothing, not the first hint.

Santa Anna was a purty short fella, that thing mighta held his cork leg!

Here's da swizzle stick ta stir them martoonies.


It's my Johnson.

Wow,  that's a beaut.  You better start saving your allowance so you can buy that old horsepistol a scabbard :(

By the way,  I think Furby owes you a cigar for figgering out the whatzit :D :D

 I haven't figured it out yet!   ???

ME ???
Look who's talking Bro! :D :D :D

Heres a picture of a saddle set up with the horsepistol holster in place.  Don't know where the DanG horse went! 8)

Texas Ranger,
That saddle hasn't got a PRG like the first one does.

Well I was doing some digging online about this and found a holster that was close but not it.
A little more digging and I found the website for the National Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum.
I sent an email with a couple pics and here is part of the reply:

Circa 1845-1855 pommel holster.
Issued to mounted troops (dragoons and cavalry) they were used to carry
a single-shot percussion military pistols at the front of the
saddle. The narrow "pockets" on the face of the holster body at the
mouth were for carrying paper-wrapped cartridges for the weapon.


Cordially yours,
Richard Rattenbury
Curator of History
National Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum
Oklahoma City, OK