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Title: Info on Tree Farmer C5D with welded serial number plates
Post by: jdatwood on July 26, 2018, 07:42:22 PM
Good evening members,
I recently purchased another skidder after going without my old one. I wasn't in the market to spend as much as I did on my John Deere 440D. Anyhow, I settled on a very, very, unique 1989 Tree Farmer C5D. I feel like I got stupid lucky to stumble onto a machine like this so quickly, it has exactly everything I want.  It's an extended frame, Deutz F59L12 air cooled 5 cyl diesel, Dual steering cylinder, Steering wheel equipped, C6 Centrax axles, Spicer ES42-5A transmission, Extra 3/4" armor plated belly, rear end cover, Reinforced blade. Point of all of that is every place has a serialized badge on it. I've spoken to DAVCO as they are experts on Tree Farmers and confirmed those were all factory upgrades installed while the machine was new. When the owner saw the machine his jaw hit the floor, apparently they were in his opinion the best variation one could get. He in fact had a small fleet identical to it (mine was confirmed not to be one of his) However......they didn't seem like they'd heard of the badge thing before nor have I ever seen another one with them or one with all the exact same modifications. Does anyone know what those badges mean? What they signify? Why they're there? Were they Tree Farmer factory or some sort of custom shop? I'm super impressed with this machine, I thought I'd miss my 440D but honestly other than the fact I cannot run the blade and steer simultaneously I don't miss my Deere at all. I cannot find a single mention of those plates anywhere on the net... I'm really hoping someone on here may be a former dealer, distributor, or employee and knows exactly what the story is. I like to learn about this sort of stuff. Can you guys help me learn?

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Title: Re: Info on Tree Farmer C5D with welded serial number plates
Post by: Oliver05262 on July 26, 2018, 10:34:50 PM
I've seen those plates on a machine near here, and I think it's a C5 also. I'll go visit and post sumpin' in a day or so.
Title: Re: Info on Tree Farmer C5D with welded serial number plates
Post by: jdatwood on July 26, 2018, 10:47:34 PM
That'd be awesome! Thank you!
Title: Re: Info on Tree Farmer C5D with welded serial number plates
Post by: Southside on July 26, 2018, 11:48:38 PM
Give Kieth at Forestry Construction a call 540-586-6814, he can probably tell you everything you ever wanted to know about your machine, and can help with parts should you need any.  Where abouts in Maine are you?  I am from The County back in the day.  
Title: Re: Info on Tree Farmer C5D with welded serial number plates
Post by: mike_belben on July 27, 2018, 09:00:33 AM
Id bet you can get simultaneous blade and steer by adding a flow control valve.  Id set priority to the steering. 
Title: Re: Info on Tree Farmer C5D with welded serial number plates
Post by: jdatwood on July 27, 2018, 10:06:01 AM
Quote from: mike_belben on July 27, 2018, 09:00:33 AM
Id bet you can get simultaneous blade and steer by adding a flow control valve.  Id set priority to the steering.

I'd like that very much, unfortunately not that easy to my knowledge. The Deere manifold has one, this one does not. Do you have a part number for the kit? If not I'm SOL as it's a tree piece manifold. I'd have to re-invent the wheel for a small nuance. I looked into adding the block from the same manufacturer as it's a modular assembly that is simply built out in components in a manifold. Like anything it can be done if you have enough money. Maybe there's a cheap solution I'm not aware of?
Title: Re: Info on Tree Farmer C5D with welded serial number plates
Post by: jdatwood on July 27, 2018, 10:08:34 AM
Quote from: Southside logger on July 26, 2018, 11:48:38 PM
Give Kieth at Forestry Construction a call 540-586-6814, he can probably tell you everything you ever wanted to know about your machine, and can help with parts should you need any.  Where abouts in Maine are you?  I am from The County back in the day. 

Thanks, will do! I actually need a part now that's hard to find. I'll see if he has it. I'm from Albion, small town outside Waterville. I'm very familiar with "the county" you know your from Maine when "the county" tells you all you need to know about which "county" the person is referring too LOL. Beautiful up there!
Title: Re: Info on Tree Farmer C5D with welded serial number plates
Post by: mike_belben on July 27, 2018, 12:52:19 PM
Ive never even drove a skidder much less got part numbers.  

:D

But in general if it can only do one or the other they shared a pump section for the two functions and if space/design allows, a flow divider would make it so both actually get fluid, not just the upstream spool.  May not be practical to do on your machine but id have to be looking at it to even guess. 
Title: Re: Info on Tree Farmer C5D with welded serial number plates
Post by: jdatwood on July 27, 2018, 02:27:07 PM
Quote from: mike_belben on July 27, 2018, 12:52:19 PM
Ive never even drove a skidder much less got part numbers. 

:D

But in general if it can only do one or the other they shared a pump section for the two functions and if space/design allows, a flow divider would make it so both actually get fluid, not just the upstream spool.  May not be practical to do on your machine but id have to be looking at it to even guess.

Well that's a tragedy, driving a skidder is the most fun ATV there is! I agree on the hydros. Deere has a priority valve stacked right in there between the spools.
Title: Re: Info on Tree Farmer C5D with welded serial number plates
Post by: mike_belben on July 27, 2018, 05:59:25 PM
I am however the proud owner of a currently broken dozer and a host of other highly valuable walnut junk
Title: Re: Info on Tree Farmer C5D with welded serial number plates
Post by: teakwood on July 28, 2018, 08:26:12 AM
Mike, i just like you positive thinking forward pushing personality/attitude and wish you all the best. Better times will come!
Title: Re: Info on Tree Farmer C5D with welded serial number plates
Post by: mike_belben on July 28, 2018, 08:42:33 AM
 :-*

Thanks buddy
Title: Re: Info on Tree Farmer C5D with welded serial number plates
Post by: Autocar on July 28, 2018, 03:09:11 PM
My C-7 grapple has all welded  serial numbers like that also
Title: Re: Info on Tree Farmer C5D with welded serial number plates
Post by: Corley5 on July 28, 2018, 03:54:13 PM
My C4 forwarder had welded plates too.  The blade looked identical to the one on your machine.  There was a C5 forwarder on the job next to us and the only difference I could see between the two machines was mine had a 4 cylinder Deutz and the other one had a 5 cylinder Deutz.
Title: Re: Info on Tree Farmer C5D with welded serial number plates
Post by: jdatwood on July 28, 2018, 05:00:13 PM
So are they just that, serial numbers? Nothing to do with options or anything extra? That's what it's starting to sound like.
Title: Re: Info on Tree Farmer C5D with welded serial number plates
Post by: Corley5 on July 28, 2018, 06:48:20 PM
Take good care of those Centrax axles.
Title: Re: Info on Tree Farmer C5D with welded serial number plates
Post by: jdatwood on July 28, 2018, 08:18:55 PM
Quote from: Corley5 on July 28, 2018, 06:48:20 PM
Take good care of those Centrax axles.

For sure, sounds like parts are difficult to find. I generally keep that drivetrain stuff flushed with diesel if needed and make sure they have good oil. The transmission and transfer case in this machine were horrible. Transmission had rust colored oil and needed a flush but mechanicals were good. Transfer case had about 10oz of oil in it... All part of the fun getting old iron restored 😁
Title: Re: Info on Tree Farmer C5D with welded serial number plates
Post by: redneck on July 28, 2018, 08:35:24 PM
There is a fellow here in New Brunswick that has lots of parts for those tree farmers.  I found his ad on kijiji just search for skidder parts.  He is located in New Bandon on Route 8.  I think he bought out the remaining stock from a forestry outfit in Fredericton.