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Started by tjhammer, October 15, 2012, 07:35:04 AM

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tjhammer



     has anyone on the forum had any problem this summer with bore bees,would paint stop them from making nests in my barn,there are so many more this year than last,do bee traps really work ???
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Cypressstump

Good Luck !

I am interested in the answers you recieve. I too have them things boring away on some exposed rough pine rafters. They do not seem to bother with some latex painted wood adjacent to the non-painted raft ends.
I bought some shore-nuff bee killer concoction from the local feedstore. It did not seem to affect the bees much after a couple weeks.
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jimparamedic

The bee's are bad. But then so are the wood peckers that come to feast on the larva. Sounds like a jack hammer and looks like a beaver has been there.

Riggs

I'm with you guys, I'd love to know a safe way to stop them. I keep honeybees, so I don't want to risk them.
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GeneWengert-WoodDoc

Are you talking about carpenter bees that bore into wood to make their home?  If so, they return year after year to the same hole, making their cavities in the wood larger, more extensive, each year.  Control is achieved by squirting their hole with an insecticide approved for such use (a cool, nighttime is best as they are not real active) and then putting a hardwood dowel in the hole entry so those that are not killed cannot return.  Your county extension agent can tell you what insecticide is effective and approved...a dust is probably best, but even a commercial can of wasp spray will work.

For more info,see extension.missouri.edu/p/g7424
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Can't open that video. >:(
I was given one of those electronic flyswatter killer things that look like a tennis racket.. I think my neighbors stopped coming around about the time I recieved that gift... come to think about , if I saw them doing what they seen me doing from a distance, I'd probably shy away as well... some guy jumping around playing air tennis by himself may sway me to steer clear too. ;)
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tjhammer

5yrs ago I built a deck on my house it was treated wood,I thought I was safe from all the wood eating bugs,I could not beleive how much damadge hade been done in one year,I went to the co-op and got some kind of insecticide to be mixed in water  I sprayed my deck,the next morning under every hole was a bee and it lasted all sumer but to spray a barn I could not afford it around 50.00 a half pint,have looked into bee traps don't know how well they will do.
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Raider Bill

I have a problem with them on my porch in Tenn. if I find a hole I spray wd40 in the hole. They come right out and fall dead but it doesn't last long. I bought some traps which caught a very small amount. I then went to drastic measures.... Got 18 in one day 14 the next!


  

 
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Last year at my wife's log home they were the worst that i've ever seen .Some where i read to caulk the holes early in the morning or late evening while they were in the nest.I caulked every hole that i could find.It solved the problem .Over 90 % were gone the next day.
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Luckily, I have not seen any in our log cabin structure....so far. ::)
I've built lots of stuff and have cut lots of wood. I've seen these bees in all types of building material, normal and pressure treated. I've also seen them in many species of trees, both standing dead and healthy trees. The stuff they invade has always seemed hit-or-miss to me.
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I hear them in my house supporting structure, all made from CCA pressure treated wood.  I would expect that the copper in the preservative will prevent the bees from boring in to it.  I do not know about the new "yellow" preservatives...

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Quote from: Raider Bill on October 15, 2012, 11:28:51 AM
I have a problem with them on my porch in Tenn. if I find a hole I spray wd40 in the hole. They come right out and fall dead but it doesn't last long. I bought some traps which caught a very small amount. I then went to drastic measures.... Got 18 in one day 14 the next!


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GeneWengert-WoodDoc

Because the carpenter bee does not eat the wood, but is merely tunneling to make a home, treated wood does not offer much protection.  That is why an insecticide powder is effective as they get it on themselves and then their food. 

The best time to plug a hole is a night when it is cool...they are not active then. 

Woodpeckers like the hollow sound from the bees tunnels, so it is,common to find both.

They like the softer woods, with pine being a favorite.  That is why plugging a hole with a hardwood dowel is effective...the wood is too hard for them to chew.  They like a little bit wetter wood as it is easier to chew.
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YellowHammer

I've had good luck using Delta Dust powder with a bellows applicator.  Just squirt some powder in the holes and and any bee that gets the dust on it will die shortly.  The dust has a pretty good residual effect lasting several months and also kills spiders, wasps, and most other bugs but is safe for humans.  It's a good way to keep my barn mostly pest free.
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Quote from: YellowHammer on October 15, 2012, 10:41:42 PM
I've had good luck using Delta Dust powder with a bellows applicator.  Just squirt some powder in the holes and and any bee that gets the dust on it will die shortly.  The dust has a pretty good residual effect lasting several months and also kills spiders, wasps, and most other bugs but is safe for humans.  It's a good way to keep my barn mostly pest free.
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Is that the brand name Delta Dust? Think Tractor supply has it?

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Oh well, got to fess up.  I use them to sharpen my eye with a bb gun.  Good areal  pass shooting.
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Draco

Sevin dust (found in local garden center for insect control on flowers and vegetables) is extremely deadly to all wasps and bees.  It is the biggest problem with this product.  Our honey bees have had some serious setbacks over the past decade, or so.  Mason bees (the kind that is being discussed) are mostly native bees that serve the same purpose as our dwindling honey bees do.  Without pollinators, we would all starve.  But, if you want to do in all of your mason bees, get a dusting container and squirt a bit of Sevin in the holes after the larvae have emerged in late spring.  Plugging the holes afterward will help, by forcing adult bees to excavate new holes.  I have not tried this, but Sevin also comes in spray form.  If you have thousands of square feet to cover, it would not be economically feasable.  Spraying the wood may prevent new excavation, but multiple applications would probably be necessary.  Rain would wash it away and it has a short time period before it becomes a harmless substance.

I hope this helps because I know a lot more about nature than logging and milling!

catskillpond

We have  rental houses where the bees would come every year and boar into the eves. We usally put 20 mule team boraxo soap and corn meal in a soda can with a small amount of sugar under our lumber piles that come off the mill to kill the carpenter ants which works flawlessly. We made up a mixture with water and sprayed the eves and the bees never came back.
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Raider Bill

Quote from: Texas Ranger on October 16, 2012, 10:36:33 AM
Oh well, got to fess up.  I use them to sharpen my eye with a bb gun.  Good areal  pass shooting.

I was speed drawing and even shooting from the hip. Everyone was in awe of my marksmanship there was even some bets placed. It was deadly to the bees.

I never told them I was using rat shot.. A couple guys asked to try so I made like I was reloading and put regular long rifle rounds in. Of course nobody even came close.
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[/quote]I never told them I was using rat shot.. A couple guys asked to try so I made like I was reloading and put regular long rifle rounds in. Of course nobody even came close.
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Funny you mention that. Years ago me and a buddy went squirrel hunting, he with 20 ga. and me w/ .22 rifle. I had my limit coming out, he not so lucky. A woodcock had flushed a few times in front of us, my friend missed once. I told him I'd take next shot with my .22. Unknown to him, I put in a .22 LR CCI shot, number 9 I think it was. I saw where the bird landed, eased up nice and quite, shot him dead as it flushed. I never told my friend of the birdshot used. I was quite the shot as well as yourself! Mean huh?
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bigred1951

they bored holes all in my mamaws porch rafters..so i would get the wasp and bee spray and spray all the holes and watch them come out and die and then respray.. that seemed to work well along with wd40 sometimes..and finally i had enough and went and bought some expanding foam and filled all the holes i could find..only seen one bee since this summer haha

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