new from south mo. and need so much guidance!

[yukon cornelius]

hey there! my wonderful supportive wife and I just bought a ez junior and we plan to build our house with it! we have 30 acres in south mo full to the gills with large oak and large cedar. never been logged. I have a dream of building it all from wood from our property. I have a lot of questions. the biggest is the roof. we wanted to use metal but all of the moisture barriers and air gaps have me at my end. we are planning cathedral ceilings with insulation between rafters and covering insulation with wood between rafters. all wood will be left exposed in side. we were wondering about asphalt shingles. because they are individual they can move a little as the wood shrinks (we will be building with green lumber) another plan was to cover roof exterior with 30 lb felt paper for 6 months or more then shingle. another question is about the decking. id like to use my own cut 1bys. as they dry will I be able to get a nail to go in to shingle? thank you in advance and thank you so much for all the info I have already found on here before I joined.

[GAB]

CY:
Welcome to the forum.
As an FYI if you do like one fellow did in ME it could help you.  What this fellow did was to saw for example 2" x 6" pieces for framing and then after it had dried some resawed it to 5-1/2" to match the dimensions for windows and doors.  By doing this he removed most of the bends and bows complements of stresses in the wood.  He claimed that he ended up with a nice square building.  As to a lot of your questions I hope someone else will come along with sound advice as I have no personal experience to draw on to answer your questions.  Good Luck. Gerald

[Magicman]

Hello yukon cornelius, and Welcome to the Forestry Forum.

I'm not giving advice, but I just completed a Cabin Addition that is shared here:  LINK  You may at least get some ideas.

[thecfarm]

yukon cornelius,welcome to the forum. I have only used hemlock in my out building. I cut the tree,saw the logs,and I build. All in about 2-3-4 hours at times. With what I do,2 boards that are touching,I can almost stick my finger between each board now. Leaves a good 3/8 inch gap. I really would not want to cover the roof with shingles or really anything until the boards have dried. I have put steel on my outbuildings,but the roof was strapped with green one inch boards. I have no idea for sure about the moisture problem with green boards and shingles. Good luck with sawing. ;D

[nk14zp]

Welcome to the forum.

[Chuck White]

Welcome to the Forestry Forum, Yukon Cornelius.

[drobertson]

welcome Yukon c, it would be interesting to know where you are,  and as to your question, not a bad one.  Many folks for years have went straight up with green lumber in these parts for years as all across the country, both metal roofing and shingles have been used successfully.  I would suggest to pick one and go with it, I have seen a few folks over the years try to build as the money was available, and it always seems like the roofing was one area that causes the most issues in the long run,  even 30# paper will give you some issues with the wind, ice, and rain,  if left uncovered too long.  Just my observation,   hope you and your wife's dream house happens soon enough for you,    david

[yukon cornelius]

thanks for the advice. we are north of wheatland and south of warsaw. we are leaning towards shingles now just because of the moisture issues. I will leave it all un insulated for a while to let it dry from the inside. I built a 36x36 pole barn and a 12x12 cabin last winter. this dream has to come true for us! we sold our house and we are all living in the cabin. myself, wife, 13 year old son and 2 year old son. we are too deep to turn back now! we are crazy, we know it....

[dboyt]

Greetings, neighbor!  I live about 20 miles south of Joplin, MO (near Neosho).  Welcome to the forum.  Building your home from timber on your property can be done (I did it over 30 years ago).  Might check on building codes.  Wood shrinks mostly in width (about 10%) and thickness (about 6%), but very little in length (about .1%), so plan accordingly.  We initially went with asphalt shingles, but recently covered them with metal roofing.  Our native oak can be pretty tough to work with, especially when it is dried.  You may encounter some warping and sagging if you build green.  Overall, I think it worked pretty well for us to start out with asphalt shingles, then go to metal roofing after 30 year or so when the shingles needed replacing.  By then, everything is pretty much dried and stable.  Keep us posted on your progress.

[yukon cornelius]

that sounded like our plan with the shingles. its good to here my ideas aren't too far out. no building codes to worry with here. we are in the STICKS! only a few neighbors around also. its so nice!

[Deese]

Welcome to the Forestry Forum. It is lots of fun  8)

[never finished]

  Yukon, I'm not sure if I wouldn't try to trade some of that oak for some syp fore framing. It would be much easier to work with. Save some oak for the inside floors and trim. I just finished my son and DIL a house with the method GAB referd to. It takes more time at the mill but is easier to build with. You will enjoy working with the ERC, light weight, nice color, and smells good too. Good luck, and welcome.   

[mesquite buckeye]

Hey and welcome. ;D

[chain]

"we are crazy and we know it"  :D  Now that's funny right there and welcome to the Forum!

If you have all that timber, oak & cedar, you may want to go to the timber and log frame section, think about a log home, just like the old pioneers did!

[yukon cornelius]

we really considered the log home idea but we thought we could stick build it faster. I am going to build a log blacksmith shop after the house and animal barn are done. I have so much to learn!

[mesquite buckeye]

Timber frame uses less trees than log house. ;D 8) 8) 8)

[customsawyer]

Welcome to the forum.