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Started by luvmexfood, September 29, 2014, 07:12:13 PM

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luvmexfood

Did I do wrong? Went by this Chinese restaurant couple of weeks ago. Buffet. Ate one plate and went back for another. While I was getting second plate, not 10 ft. from my booth waitress came and cleared my table. Not once did she come by and offer a refill on drink or anything.

Took daughter Sunday and we ate and she never came by to offer refills on drinks or anything. In fact their was what we think was the loudest argument coming out of the kitchen. Loud voices, sounded angry but we could not understand what they were saying.

Both times I left no tip. Usually I tip 20 percent.

One good thing was that all the employees were Asian. My kids and I get a laugh when we go to a Chinese restaurants and the cooks are Mexican. Nothing against either. Just odd.
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Chinese is an angry sounding language, IMO. At one of the local places I eat at, conversations are spoken loudly, forcefully and distinctly and then everyone laughs!
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sawguy21

I will tip up to 20% before taxes for a good meal and service with a smile. If the server is disorganized, slow or downright unfriendly he/she goes without.
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Ljohnsaw

I like Chevy's and learned how to eat real cheap there.  When we were house-hunting (16 years ago, in the summer), we would stop in 3-4 times a week (lunch or dinner) for a couple of months.  We would order a "setup" (lettuces, Pico-de-guio(sp), sour cream and guacamole) ($1.25), a bowl of re-fried beans ($2.25), and (free) tortillas.  My wife and I would each do that.  We would get the Chicken Quesadea (really good!) for our daughter (was always half price because we would go in before 5).  We'd get Iced Tea (free refills).  We could make 4 or 5 (small) bean burritos each and have a couple of pieces of our daughter's meal, too.  The bill would come to about $12-15. - sure beats the normal $30-40.  We would ask for a particular waiter who got to know us well.  He would have us served in less than 5 minutes and he would get a $10.00 tip!  We felt guilty occupying a table that might earn him more, but he really hustled.  We finally convinced him to leave the ice tea pitcher (was against company policy) so he didn't have to "wait" on us and he still got a good tip.
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Chuck White

I pretty-much tip according to the service and attitude of the servant.

I feel that the price of the meal really shouldn't apply to the tip, but the tip usually runs around 15-20% of the price of the meal.
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sandhills

I agree Chuck, I've never really tipped according to the food, but the service.  Usually the waiter/waitress isn't the one cooking it so not a lot they can do about the quality of it but the good ones make sure you leave satisfied.  My oldest daughter just got her first job a few weeks ago, waitressing at a country club here and I know they count on tips as a big part of their paycheck so I hope she does alright at it, I have seen ones that try too hard also.

beenthere

It is unfair, IMO, when the waitress staff has to pool their tips and divide them equally.
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BradMarks

Pooling tips with wait staff, cooks, and even the dishwasher (certain %) is pretty common. Works well if ALL of the staff are trained properly, have the same great demeanor, great service, and so on.  I think the idea is to prevent "fighting" over the good customers, letting people sit where they want, ok to request their favorite server, etc. Works POORLY if none of the above. And I think 15-20% is the norm these days - for good service.

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i won't punish the server, usally poor service comes from poor training or in experianced servers ;) only once in my life i didnt tip.
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luvmexfood

Quote from: ljohnsaw on October 01, 2014, 01:05:34 AM
I like Chevy's and learned how to eat real cheap there.  When we were house-hunting (16 years ago, in the summer), we would stop in 3-4 times a week (lunch or dinner) for a couple of months.  We would order a "setup" (lettuces, Pico-de-guio(sp), sour cream and guacamole) ($1.25), a bowl of re-fried beans ($2.25), and (free) tortillas.  My wife and I would each do that.  We would get the Chicken Quesadea (really good!) for our daughter (was always half price because we would go in before 5).  We'd get Iced Tea (free refills).  We could make 4 or 5 (small) bean burritos each and have a couple of pieces of our daughter's meal, too.  The bill would come to about $12-15. - sure beats the normal $30-40.  We would ask for a particular waiter who got to know us well.  He would have us served in less than 5 minutes and he would get a $10.00 tip!  We felt guilty occupying a table that might earn him more, but he really hustled.  We finally convinced him to leave the ice tea pitcher (was against company policy) so he didn't have to "wait" on us and he still got a good tip.

I ate at a Mexican place a few years back in Northern Va. that I think was named Chevy's. I know when you came in they had some kind of machine that automatically made fresh flour tortillas. Dropped some dough, flattened and had a small gas flame that cooked them. Man they were good.
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Ljohnsaw

Quote from: luvmexfood on October 01, 2014, 06:54:19 PM

I ate at a Mexican place a few years back in Northern Va. that I think was named Chevy's. I know when you came in they had some kind of machine that automatically made fresh flour tortillas. Dropped some dough, flattened and had a small gas flame that cooked them. Man they were good.

Yep, that's the place - El Tortilla Machinio.  Several levels of slow spinning metal plates with fire below each.  A scraper diverted the tortilla off the top one, flipping it over and onto the next level down.  At the very bottom, a conveyor belt took them back up to the top and dumped them in a basket.  They kept getting stuck and sometimes burnt so they got rid of it in our local store.  :(  Now they have a manual press and a big grill that someone has to tend.  But, they are the BEST tortillas around!
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drobertson

Tips go for the service in my view, and training and the management staff are to blame or praise for good service.  I cooked for over five years back in the early 80's. Back then ribeyes were a buck an once,  nice place to work.  There was a tip pool in affect there as well. Got back very few re-cooks.
This said, this past week while eating at a Ruby's  I did in fact send back one, my first ever! over cooked, a perfect medium well, no pink, the second the same exactly, not the waitresses fault,  I ate it the same, she asked to look, and apologized,  when the bill came this was left off the ticket,  she was nice, as was I, just hard to believe a medium is that hard to hit,  had to be a trainee cook?
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beenthere

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I like the steak "over easy", same as the eggs.   ;D

Then comes the question when the wait person sets the steak on the table "would you like steak sauce" and my answer "I hope not". ;)

I tip 20% if the service and food is good. Those that put up with me, deserve a tip.
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Magicman

Quote from: beenthere on October 08, 2014, 10:32:28 AMThose that put up with me, deserve a tip. 
:o  Does that mean that you're gonna hafta send me ah FF tip  ???  (Sorry, I just could not help it.)  :)
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beenthere

You deserve one.  Especially after stopping by and seeing buddy Steve in SantaFe.
  That was a real treat for him as well.
8)
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Grizzly

Quote from: beenthere on October 01, 2014, 11:06:44 AM
It is unfair, IMO, when the waitress staff has to pool their tips and divide them equally.

Workers often want pooling when some are earning good tips and others aren't. That is exactly why I agree that pooling damages good service. That said my daughter worked in a setting where without pooling the food service people who worked in the back allowing her to look good on the serving side would have received nothing...... so I guess it has its place.
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luvmexfood

Here's the way I look at it. Poor food, not the servers fault tip 15-20%. When the server is not busy and never even comes back and checks on you for a drink refill or anything then that is poor service so little or no tip. The place I was refering to was a buffet. Waitress came and sat us, brought our initial drink order and was never at out table again. Only one other family in the whole place. She went and sat down and never came back. Hence, no tip.

Don't like pooling tips either. Just not right in my eye. Tips are for the server.
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thecfarm

We have all worked with some that did not do thier share. Be it,they just did not get it,did not care,or just thought,why bother. I feel the pooling is not fair to the ones that do a real good job and than the ones that don't care get the same amount.
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coxy

Quote from: thecfarm on October 08, 2014, 08:20:23 PM
We have all worked with some that did not do thier share. Be it,they just did not get it,did not care,or just thought,why bother. I feel the pooling is not fair to the ones that do a real good job and than the ones that don't care get the same amount.
I agree with you and beenthere I have watch time and time again some people not doing anything and getting the same  its not right to the ones doing a great job

WmFritz

Quote from: Magicman on October 08, 2014, 02:08:31 PM
Quote from: beenthere on October 08, 2014, 10:32:28 AMThose that put up with me, deserve a tip. 
:o  Does that mean that you're gonna hafta send me ah FF tip  ???  (Sorry, I just could not help it.)  :)

:D ;D :D
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WmFritz

I'm in the 'over easy' club too.  :D

My Grandad taught me to never ruin a good steak with steak sauce.

I usually tip 20% but if my server is a go getter, I bump it up.

If we're at a buffet, I normally only drop a couple bucks per head. Maybe my thinking is flawed, but I figure if I'm getting my own food, I figure I'm doing some of the work.
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WDH

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Compensation

Quote from: Grizzly on October 08, 2014, 03:49:02 PM
Quote from: beenthere on October 01, 2014, 11:06:44 AM
It is unfair, IMO, when the waitress staff has to pool their tips and divide them equally.

Workers often want pooling when some are earning good tips and others aren't. That is exactly why I agree that pooling damages good service. That said my daughter worked in a setting where without pooling the food service people who worked in the back allowing her to look good on the serving side would have received nothing...... so I guess it has its place.

Yep and yep. I usually toss a dollar per person at places like that. A little more if they actually care about service.
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