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Guy swears it's hickory?

Started by ReggieT, February 27, 2019, 09:45:48 PM

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WDH

ELM is not opposite branched.  BLACKGUM is not opposite branched.  SWEETGUM is not opposite branched.  ASH is opposite branched.  The grain can spiral in some trees of a species that usually have straight grain.  Trees are individuals, like people. 
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petefrom bearswamp

To be devil's advocate, Hard to tell from the pics but some twigs look opposite some not.
Shot of one of the split pieces shows alternate knots.
End grain shot looks diffuse porous not ring.
Bark certainly looks Ash however.
Ash here almost splits just by looking at it.
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WDH

OK Reggie.  You are going to have to go back and get a limb to quiet these naysayers ;D. 
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ReggieT

Quote from: WDH on March 04, 2019, 04:49:11 PM
OK Reggie.  You are going to have to go back and get a limb to quiet these naysayers ;D.
It's a Gum tree.... ::) :'(

Southside

Don't ya mean Prickly Hickory? 
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WDH

If it is gum, then there are two different trees in your pics.  The first three pics are definitely ash.  The fourth pic (which I did not pay much attention to since the the first pics were definitely ash) is likely the gum you speak of.  This would explain the spiral grain in the split piece.  
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sandhills

See'ns how I'm too DanG dumb I'm just gonna go with ash because that was my guess, and believe it or not I guessed that before WDH put his word in! :D  But I still think the "main" log in question is ash, I have no idea what gum trees look like other than I hear they're the smiley_devil from those who have to saw it ;).  On the other hand I have split elm like that, just not with bark like that...

petefrom bearswamp

Reggie are you going to Jakes?
If so bring some samples if you can.
We can duke it out there.
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WDH

I'll bring my fighting gloves. 
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barbender

After reading this whole thread, the only thing I'm sure of is that Southside is a rotten guy (albeit a very cunning one) for that propane TV prank😂😂😂
Too many irons in the fire

WDH

He is pretty rotten, like an old ash with doty heart rot :D. 
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Southside

Geesh guys, have the decency to at least @ a guy if you're gonna beat him that hard.   :D
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barbender

I didn't really feel that decency was warranted in this case.😂😂😂
Too many irons in the fire

ReggieT

Quote from: petefrom bearswamp on March 06, 2019, 08:30:54 AM
Reggie are you going to Jakes?
If so bring some samples if you can.
We can duke it out there.
Hmm...don't reckon I'm aware of a place or a gentleman named Jakes? ??? :P
Bring me up to speed...

ReggieT

Quote from: WDH on March 05, 2019, 08:17:43 AM
If it is gum, then there are two different trees in your pics.  The first three pics are definitely ash.  The fourth pic (which I did not pay much attention to since the the first pics were definitely ash) is likely the gum you speak of.  This would explain the spiral grain in the split piece.  
Okay...the zany thing is they are just different portions of the same tree!  :D :)
BTW...can we get an opinion or some feedback from, Red Green? ;D

petefrom bearswamp

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I read all this twice.  His tailgate isn't smashed. Something's wrong. ::) ::)
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If Danny tells you it's ash, then it's ash.  If Danny tells you tomorrow is Easter, then you better start dyeing some eggs. :D 
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SwampDonkey

Different ash than what we have up here, if it is. Our mature ash has bark like in this link, photo at top on the link below.

Ashes to Ashes | Duncannon Appalachian Trail Community

I'd have to see more of the limbs and buds. Looks like the yard there is full of them, that would settle it. ;D
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brianJ

Quote from: WDH on March 03, 2019, 07:14:50 PM
ELM is not opposite branched.  BLACKGUM is not opposite branched.  SWEETGUM is not opposite branched.  ASH is opposite branched.  The grain can spiral in some trees of a species that usually have straight grain.  Trees are individuals, like people.
I will vouch for this.   Ive split and sold 10 bush cords of nearly all ash this month from a hedgerow the boss said to clear out.    Lots of 35 + foot main stems from 14 inches down to 3  is what I cut.    Some of them split with the wedge two inches in.   Some of them have a curly grain that the splitter wedge runs three quarters thru or more toseperate

SwampDonkey

Yeah ash can be easy or hard as the old hermit found out about shelter belt ash.

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Al_Smith

Well the ash in these parts have no bark to speak of .Every one over two inches is dead for the most part .

WDH

I took this pic of an ash at my sawmill yesterday, complete with the aforementioned lichens.  Decidedly opposite branched.  However, I am probably the only one that thinks that it looks like the OP's pic to start this thread  :).



 



  
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SwampDonkey

I see similar lichens, but the bark is more cubical in the original pictures than ash I am used to. But hopefully the limbs can be examined by the OP for branching habit and buds. I've seen older ash where the bark is not as deeply furrowed and has wide thin strips. This is real apparent on log yards where the buyer uses ash for tool handles. Lots of variability with age and site.
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