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Bandmill Bandit

yes i am aware of that BUT there is away to do it that does NOT take power out of th elines and actually increases power flowing in the lines. I dont know much about it but i know some one who does I'll see if i can get him to join the forum and contribute here. He is a physicist.
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Dan_Shade

Sounds like Tesla's  electric car that pulled energy from the "ether".

There are a lot of things that we don't understand, but I'm pretty sure that there is no free lunch.
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Brucer

I was curious about the pyramids "lining up". I guess it's true, but only if you reject all the pyramids that aren't on the particular line you choose. There's about 3 dozen sites of pyramids of various types on the earth. To include all of them your "line" would be a "band" about 3000 miles wide.

Tesla was a pioneer when it came to alternating current. He believed that it ought to be possible to transmit electrical energy through the air over long distances. However, there is no evidence that he actually did it, or even figured out how to do it. The only claim that he managed it was by his biographer; Tesla himself never made the claim.

You can transmit electricity over very short distances: some electric toothbrushes and cell phone chargers use the principle. However, the amount that you can successfully transmit varies as the inverse of the 6th power of the distance you want to cover. So if you have an apparatus that can transmit a certain amount of electricity for a distance of 1 foot, you would only be able to transmit 1/26 = 1/64 (about 5%) as much energy over a 2 foot distance. Obviously not very efficient.

My high school physics teacher built a Tesla coil (it's not difficult) and we did a few experiments with it. A student could hold one end of a fluorescent tube a few inches away from the top of the coil and it would actually light up. It turns out that this was a lot more dangerous than we thought.

Quote from: Bandmill Bandit on November 08, 2015, 08:37:06 PM
yes i am aware of that BUT there is away to do it that does NOT take power out of th elines and actually increases power flowing in the lines...

Which violates the first law of thermodynamics. If it were possible, you could easily build a perpetual motion machine.
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DMcCoy

Ug.  The problem with harvesting the earths magnetism is called grade.  There is an enormous amount of energy out there but it is low grade.  Maybe a better explanation is there is the same amount of energy in a pound of uranium as there is in a pound of banana peels we just do not know how to capture useful energy from banana peels. 
When "Back to the Future"  featured 'Mr. Fusion' this was the idea - Energy from banana peels and old cigar butts.
Same could be said of wood ashes having the same pound per pound energy content as un-burned wood. 
The old conspiracy of oil companies etc. has been around forever.  What proponents of this idea miss is that laws could be enacted to make it illegal to produce your own 'free' power, just like alcohol, marijuana, and other substances. 


pineywoods

re: pyramid alignment. Most of the ones I have read about are aligned almost exactly to true north (not magnetic north), and are in the northern hemisphere where the north star (polaris) is visible. Almost all the early civilizations were acutely aware of most heavenly bodies, and usually worshiped one or more. All that's required for north alingnment is a long piece of string and a view of polaris, the only visible star which appears to never move. Most of the way out theories involving pyramids can be explained with just a fundamental knowledge of physics, but there are a few un-answered questions. Like how did them Egyptians move them 20 ton blocks of granite from 100 miles away and get them stacked so neatly ? Everybody knows they used anti-gravity and tractor beams, right ?  ::)
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Gary_C

Quote from: r.man on October 26, 2015, 10:05:09 PM
On a personal note I do worry  that some good ideas get lost because we have become so jaded that we refuse to believe a good thing when we see it. I did not watch the video that was linked so I am not commenting directly on it.
    One of my favorite quotes is    " All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer "

That "favorite quote" is not a truth so there is nothing to worry about there. It should have stated that "all ideas pass thru many stages." In the end if the idea does not stand up to all the scrutiny it receives, it must not be the truth as the original quote claims.

In the scientific community the process starts with an idea being published. Next the idea will be reviewed by others and some will try to duplicate the idea. If it cannot be verified and duplicated, yes the idea will not be accepted as a truth and will be subject to ridicule, many times viciously.

So the OP has presented an idea, not a truth and Paul has challenged him to provide the proof. We can wait and see if he can show his idea as being the truth.
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Al_Smith

I suppose in theory and conjecture a person could build a gigantic coil and harness the magnetic lines of flux transmitting pole to pole .However it would be the size of Texas and there isn't enough copper the world for that to happen.

What happens though if there was .Would it tilt the earth on it's axis. Would it reverse the earths  rotation and fling us all into outer space ?  Inquiring minds beg to know .Now with out further ado I'm off to make another tin foil hat . ---this could be more fun than the oil wars ---- 8)

Brucer

The magnetic flux would have to move relative to the coil ;D.
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DMcCoy

Quote from: pineywoods on November 10, 2015, 11:23:06 AM
re: pyramid alignment. Most of the ones I have read about are aligned almost exactly to true north (not magnetic north), and are in the northern hemisphere where the north star (polaris) is visible. Almost all the early civilizations were acutely aware of most heavenly bodies, and usually worshiped one or more. All that's required for north alingnment is a long piece of string and a view of polaris, the only visible star which appears to never move. Most of the way out theories involving pyramids can be explained with just a fundamental knowledge of physics, but there are a few un-answered questions. Like how did them Egyptians move them 20 ton blocks of granite from 100 miles away and get them stacked so neatly ? Everybody knows they used anti-gravity and tractor beams, right ?  ::)

As for moving blocks this guy has an answer and better yet proves it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K7q20VzwVs

As to why,  I would never underestimate the narcissistic ego of rulers.  Hitler actually BELIEVED he would someday rule the world.  He could have built a whole lot of really big stuff if he wasn't so busy destroying countries and killing people who failed to agree with his grand vision.

Al_Smith

Quote from: Brucer on December 03, 2015, 02:49:19 AM
The magnetic flux would have to move relative to the coil ;D.
Which relative ,cousin Elmer twice removed?

It's a bad idea ,might shift the north pole to Texas .Soon to follow polar bears in Galveston and steers in Antarctica .Not good .--wonder if I can make a tin foil Stetsen

DMcCoy

It's a closed cycle chemical laser- creating a type of energy we don't understand with elements that are no longer around.  Allowed people to work 24 hrs a day on a special electrified water diet. 

http://earthmilkancientenergy.com/ch13.htm

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mad murdock

Al, i think if you employed a couple of big flux capacitors hooked in series then parallell, you might just get it to work
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Bandmill Bandit

Quote from: Brucer on November 10, 2015, 12:27:12 AM

Quote from: Bandmill Bandit on November 08, 2015, 08:37:06 PM
yes i am aware of that BUT there is away to do it that does NOT take power out of th elines and actually increases power flowing in the lines...

Which violates the first law of thermodynamics. If it were possible, you could easily build a perpetual motion machine.

Yes Brucer I Know it does violate that law BUT that law only seems to really apply inside the earths confined systems. Once out side of that the rules seem to operate diffrently. is it possible to learn how  to utilize those rules here? I think we will  discover some method that will allow us to "use" the rules in ways we do not yet understand today that will allow us to bennefit from those "other" little understood and some cases even as yet unknown laws.
 
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Al_Smith

Quote from: mad murdock on December 04, 2015, 09:48:54 AM
Al, i think if you employed a couple of big flux capacitors hooked in series then parallell, you might just get it to work
I imagine if you could build a flux capacitor about the size of California coupled with the Texas coil you could generate a bolt of lightning the could strike the moon .Talk about a mosquito zapper .

DMcCoy

Al, looks like we are behind the curve.  Flux capacitors are available a Walmart, O'Reilly auto parts, etc.
Only $379.99.  Imagine running your sawmill on 1.2 gigawatts! Certainly lighter to carry around with you than a stone pyramid.  If your saw carriage hits 88 mph you might travel in time not to mention the hospital.
Looks like the only hang up is weapons grade plutonium, maybe a road trip the Hanford, WA to see if they sell that at the gift shop.

opps. Mr Fusion is also available for only $369.99.  No plutonium needed!!  Sawdust, banana peels,  daughters boyfriends truck keys, the possibilities are endless.

mometal77

The human existence is set in a paradigm.  Those who control technology control all of us.  Life would be better if they did not suppress all of this technology. Think of the future now on all the technology we have then think back 10-20 years ago.  It was already invented. I was laughed at years ago when i said one day they will charge for water bottles in a store. I often think of what other inventions Nickolas Tesla had in his apartment he died alone in in NYC the govt came and cleaned him out after his death.  And dont look towards Hanford for a gift shop try going to Los Alamos.

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DMcCoy

Quote from: mometal77 on December 05, 2015, 11:21:54 PM
The human existence is set in a paradigm.  Those who control technology control all of us.  Life would be better if they did not suppress all of this technology. Think of the future now on all the technology we have then think back 10-20 years ago.  It was already invented. I was laughed at years ago when i said one day they will charge for water bottles in a store. I often think of what other inventions Nickolas Tesla had in his apartment he died alone in in NYC the govt came and cleaned him out after his death.  And dont look towards Hanford for a gift shop try going to Los Alamos.

A rare person trying to make a difference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY7f1t9y9a0

Interesting, he has some problems identified and has some solutions.

The pedal generator would no doubt be useful to people with out electricity, generators, and fuel.  The mechanical energy output of 1 human is roughly 140 watts per hour, his meters verify this.  1 gallon of gasoline contains 33,410 watts of electrical equivalent or 238 hrs pedaling. at 100% efficiency for both methods- ICE/generator/battery and pedal/generator/battery. That is roughly 1 1/2 months of 8 hr day/40 hr weeks of pedaling in just 1 gallon of gasoline.  Wrap you head around the implications!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_gallon_equivalent

Excluding lighting.The generation of pedal electricity to run anything is less efficient than direct coupling. 

http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2011/05/pedal-powered-farms-and-factories.html

Replacing our FF use while having our current US lifestyle is unlikely at best imo.  US housing sprawl thanks to cheap FF and car use may be viewed someday in the future as the biggest misallocation of resources in the history of the human race. The FF problem is too big, too long range for our society to tackle. Too many of us are busy buying things we don't need with money we don't have to impress people we don't like.  We want happy and that is OK, because looking at problems squarely in the face isn't always pleasant.  I fear that as things get tighter we will collectively, openly embrace some form of tyranny as a solution.

I would add 1 thing to his list which might make everything he is working on pointless.  The global storage of spent nuclear fuel rods.  Why did we ever make something that remains toxic for 10,000 years and needs constant cooling.  We might actually be the dumbest species on the planet




Al_Smith

The possibilities are endless .For one harness the hot air coming out of Washington DC might be a starting point  .

To cut to the chase there is no free wood pile nor is there free electricity which is just a means of transmitting  power any way .746 watts of electrical power is one horse power ,34500 btu per hour  of steam is one HP .One big Clydesdale is probably is two HP, depending on how you look at it .I don't have the figures for mules and goats .

Then there was dear old Ben Franklin supposedly discovered electricity .He knew what would happen conned his  assistant  to go fly the kit .Might also add old Ben said where there is not good drinking there is not good living and beer is a gift from God who wants us to be happy. I'm not so sure the WCTL approved of Ben. I'll bet he had a tin foil hat and didn't tell anybody about it . 

mometal77

Too many Assholes... not enough bullets..."I might have become a millionaire, but I chose to become a tramp!

Ianab

Here you go, a device powered by the energy in the radio waves from a WiFi router.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/08/iot_sensor_using_radio_waves/

QuoteIt draws power from a Wi-Fi router via a tiny antenna, takes a reading, and then broadcasts it back, using a slightly different frequency to give the temperature figure.

Only downside is that the range of the prototype is only about 1" from the antenna.. But hey, it's a start.  :-\
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Al_Smith

Oh Lawdy we have so many radio waves floating around this planet .What happens if they mix and the third harmonics are the resonant frequency of a dentists drill .Think of all the toothaches by the zillions .

Garage doors will be going up and down on their own,lights going off and on, trains running backwards .Computers getting stuck on porn sites embarrassing aunt Lucy and grandmother .The entire world in an uproar  .Not good .

Brucer

Actually, the garage door thing has already happened. 10 years ago the garage doors in one neighbourhood of Ottawa (capital of Canada) started randomly opening and closing. Reporters noticed that all the affected homes were within a certain radius of the US embassy. Just after the media contacted the embassy, the problem disappeared ::).

It seems that his has also happened near US military bases.
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Al_Smith

 :D Well some time ago Genie brand garage door openers had to be set with DIP switches but they came not set .I took great amusement opening and shutting  peoples garage doors as I drove passed .I just couldn't help myself .

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