Wives tale or what.

TexasTimbers · July 23, 2007, 08:59:29 PM

A feller told me last week that veggie oil is as good a wood sealer for fencing and siding as you can buy. I realize you can get told anything. Anyone ever try it? It's real cheap in a 55 gallon drum.

IMERC · July 24, 2007, 04:42:04 AM

ya get what ya pay for and you will have yurself a world class bug collection....
looks good...

till the tailights dissapear or the check clears...

which ever comes 1st...

SwampDonkey · July 24, 2007, 06:15:23 AM

Also a good attractant for mold and fungus. I suppose when it turns green, you can tell everyone it was treated 'without pressure'. ;D

Honestly, ya gotta wonder where some people dream this stuff up from. ;)

TexasTimbers · July 24, 2007, 08:28:08 AM

I was almost too embarassed to ask the question. Now I know why my sixth sense was protesting so much. :

Okay for french fries. Bad for siding.

Fla._Deadheader · July 24, 2007, 08:33:21 AM

QuoteIt's real cheap in a 55 gallon drum

What's the price by drum lot ??

asy · July 24, 2007, 10:47:50 AM

Just one little question...

Have you ever smelled rancid oil?

And, do you want a whole fence of rancid smelly oil?

I don't think bugs are the only thing it'd collect... eeeeew...

asy :D

IMERC · July 24, 2007, 12:54:03 PM

Quote from: SwampDonkey on July 24, 2007, 06:15:23 AM
Also a good attractant for mold and fungus. I suppose when it turns green, you can tell everyone it was treated 'without pressure'. ;D

Honestly, ya gotta wonder where some people dream this stuff up from. ;)

can we spell be cheap...

Dodgy Loner · July 24, 2007, 01:08:25 PM

Yep, sounds like a bad idea to me - there are a select few vegetable oils that don't go rancid. Olive oil is one of them, and I can't think of any others offhand.

OneWithWood · July 24, 2007, 01:29:32 PM

and that cheap price was?

VO makes great bio diesel but i would not put it on a fence

TexasTimbers · July 24, 2007, 02:52:37 PM

I think I see a pattern here. i don't know what to say. Maybe . . . .

Quote from: kevjay on July 24, 2007, 08:28:08 AMOkay for french fries. Bad for siding.

Reddog · July 24, 2007, 05:27:51 PM

So out of all the responces, who has real testing data to support their thoughts?

Kevjay, I would put a few diffrent types on some boards or a fence and see what happens.

SwampDonkey · July 24, 2007, 05:43:10 PM

Ya mean I gotta write a technical report? ;D ;)

Reddog · July 24, 2007, 06:20:07 PM

Quote from: SwampDonkey on July 24, 2007, 05:43:10 PM
Ya mean I gotta write a technical report? ;D ;)

At least a few pictures of the failures. ;D

Furby · July 24, 2007, 06:30:30 PM

I got two bottles of rancid oil in the cabinet in the other room.
They are yours as proof Reddog!

Reddog · July 24, 2007, 06:56:44 PM

Veg oil only goes rancid when it does not dry into the wood, or wiping the extra off. A bowl of the oil will go bad setting there. I have used Sesame and other oils to finish cooking stuff and it has worked fine.

OneWithWood · July 25, 2007, 11:34:33 AM

Ever leave any of that cooking stuff out in the elements for months at a time?

TexasTimbers · July 25, 2007, 12:08:44 PM

I just opened a 5 gallon container of peanut oil that I bought in 1999 and gave it a tentative sniff. It smells fine. Of course PO is not VO. And it was closed. Not apples to apples.

Quote from: OneWithWood on July 25, 2007, 11:34:33 AM
Ever leave any of that cooling stuff out in the elements for months at a time?

Have you ???

OneWithWood · July 25, 2007, 12:09:55 PM

No, can't say that I have. Which is why I asked. ;)

IMERC · July 25, 2007, 01:02:03 PM

Quote from: Reddog on July 24, 2007, 06:56:44 PM
I have used Sesame and other oils to finish cooking stuff and it has worked fine.

I trust you wash those utensiles once in a while...

mike_van · July 25, 2007, 04:28:40 PM

My 2 cents would be to go with a product made for the job - Thompsons, Cuprinol, whatever - It's a pain to do it once, having to clean something off that didn't work & start over is twice a pain. It seems to me any kind of food oil would draw all sorts of critters to lick, chew, & pretty much do in what it's on. I'm thinking of hedge hogs, bears, coons, you know - all those ones with teeth. :D

TexasTimbers · July 28, 2007, 10:30:00 AM

Anyone ever use McCloskeys stuff? It's a brand carried a Wal Junk but I was in there buying more Helmsman Spar Urethane for an interior beam and browsed. I bought a gallon of McCloskeys Dec`k and Siding "Stain".

I put the quote on "stain" because I have a general technical question on it. The can reads:

Penetrating Oil
Semi-Transparent
Deck & Siding
STAIN
Clear Tint Base
7940

So my question is, is this stuff labeled a "Clear Tint Base" because it is engineered to have pigments added for custom colors or can I use it as is? I am ging to begin a test sample today with it but would like all the info I can get oin what the product is intedned for.

I just had to modify my post here. I re-read the label and they do infer the product will offer UV protection as is. So I guess my question boils down to has anyone used this product or even the McCloskey brand?

SwampDonkey · July 28, 2007, 11:31:12 AM

The stuff I used on my picnic table was colored in the store from a can of 'base'. They had a chart and you pick the pigment. Sounds like the same idea with your stain. Mines got UV to. I can't speak of the brand names. Nothing to draw comparisons with since the home owner is probably only using this stuff once in years and something else claims to be better by the time you have to do it again. ;D :D :D :D

Gary_C · July 28, 2007, 11:38:54 AM

For all you naysayers, have you considered linseed oil?

Linseed oil is a vegetable oil and it probably is still the primary ingredient and one of the best things to use in a primer or sealer. It was common practice to add additional linseed oil when priming old weathered house siding, that is before they started siding houses with metal or plastic. It is not a top coat and exterior paints usually had a mildew preventing additive, but it is an excellent sealer for wood and I do not believe any better non toxic sealer has been found. ;D

SwampDonkey · July 28, 2007, 11:44:12 AM

Linseed oil would be fine for your bowl turnings if your dishing out food in them. The excess is wiped off. But, for siding I wouldn't do it. Never seen it done here. These old farm houses did well to get even one coat of white wash on them and the clapboards where changed about every 25 years. ;D :D :D :D

Gary_C · July 28, 2007, 12:16:21 PM

Go to your local paint store and read the labels on primers and chances are it will be linseed oil based.

Back in the good old days, when I was in high school, a buddy and I took a job painting a huge old two story house that had not been painted for so many years there was no trace of paint on those weathered boards. Based on the advice of the owner of the house and the local paint store, we used regular exterior oil based house paint and thinned it with equal parts of linseed oil for the primer coat. Then when we put the top coat on over the primer, we had excellent coverage of the white where with test strips we could not get coverage with three layers of top coat.

The house turned out great, with the only problem we had was when painting the trim, my buddy dropped a half gallon of paint on a entrance roof and the paint shot out of the can and sprayed on the driveway. Then we had to find out a recipe, I think it was cornstarch and lye, for paint remover to clean up the driveway. ;D ;D

Vegetable oil does make an excellent sealer for wood. This is no wives tale. ;D