Bought my new saw

[jargo432]

After all the research I finally did it.  And the winner is....

Echo CS590  8)

I can't believe how awesome this saw is.  You have to understand I've only used small homelites and a poulan.  This saw is soooo smooth and powerfull I want to cut every tree in the woods down. :D

I just have to say WOW!

Thanks again for all the advice and help.  I've got a saw for life.

[John Vander]

Would liketo see a pic of it ;)

[John Vander]

I've never see Echo saws here in Japan. How does the price compare to Stihl?

[sawguy21]

 ??? Echo is built in Japan

[jargo432]

I've never see Echo saws here in Japan. How does the price compare to Stihl?

The cs590 compares to the Stihl 362.  Both are professional grade saws at 59cc.  The Stihl goes for about $749 and the Echo goes for $389.  (I know someone will disagree with this comparison)

[isawlogs]

I'll be the first ....  :D   

[7sleeper]

I would rather compare it to the 361. And yes there is a video to prove it.

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[ladylake]

 It will be the people that never ran a well tuned one that disagree .  Steve

[jargo432]

All I know is the Echo cs590 is one awesome saw.  I've never run a Stihl so I'm not the one to say. 

[jargo432]

If you compare how much saw you can buy with $400, Echo wins hands down.  If you compare an Echo saw that is the same cc and grade then I think Sthil wins.

Just my rookie opinion.

[ladylake]

 Stihl makes fine pro saws, just costly.  Steve

[JohnG28]

I don't know how it runs next to a 361 or 362, but they are built a bit better. More mag than plastic on the Stihl, but you pay a lot more for the Stihl too. I'm sure you have a good saw that will handle your needs without issue. Enjoy.  ;D

[jargo432]

Well, they told me to run about a tank and a half through it and bring it back so they could tune it.  Only problem so far is I have so much wood on the ground it's gonna take a couple of months to get it up, split and stacked.  Man that thing goes through wood like mad.

Also I'm going to have them look to see if the chain oiler is putting enough oil on the chain.  I can tell it's getting some but I don't think enough.  You can lift the chain and see oil in the groove but when I put the tip next to some clean wood and rev it up I don't see any splatter.  Also when it was almost out of fuel it still had about a quarter tank of chain oil.  (maybe that's the way it's supposed to be but I don't think so)

Off to the shop.

[beenthere]

Oiler sounds about right to me. But you should see oil coming off the tip.

For sure don't want the oil tank empty when the fuel is gone, as that might mean a time when no oil is pumped.

[jargo432]

Back from the shop. (and cutting some more wood)  Saw didn't need any adjustment and the chain oiler was just how it was supposed to be.

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[sharkey]

Good choice.  Should last you many years as long as you take care of it.

[jargo432]

You can bet I'll take care of it.  NO ETHANOL in this baby, and only Red Armor fuel additive. 

[ladylake]

 Good choice,  WAY more power than the 271 that you were thinking of and built better.   Steve

[HolmenTree]

??? Echo is built in Japan

Roy, Echos have been manufactured in the US for some time now.

[SawTroll]

I've never see Echo saws here in Japan. How does the price compare to Stihl?

The cs590 compares to the Stihl 362.  Both are professional grade saws at 59cc.  The Stihl goes for about $749 and the Echo goes for $389.  (I know someone will disagree with this comparison)

That's at the very least a very optimistic statement - even the much more costly Echo 620 doesn't quite compare....

....and then the MS362 is in no way state of the art in the 60cc class.

[H 2 H]

Hey ST; why don't you say what you think about Echo and Stihl chainsaws like you do on other forums ?

[ladylake]

We've seen enough vids with Echo saws running right with Stihl and Huskys best saws to prove the Echo bashers
wrong time and again.   Steve

[chester_tree _farmah]

After all the research I finally did it.  And the winner is....

Echo CS590  8)

I can't believe how awesome this saw is.  You have to understand I've only used small homelites and a poulan.  This saw is soooo smooth and powerfull I want to cut every tree in the woods down. :D

I just have to say WOW!

Thanks again for all the advice and help.  I've got a saw for life.

Enjoy your new toy jargo  8)

What did u put on it for a chain?

[Andyshine77]

I don't know how it runs next to a 361 or 362, but they are built a bit better. More mag than plastic on the Stihl, but you pay a lot more for the Stihl too. I'm sure you have a good saw that will handle your needs without issue. Enjoy.  ;D

Mag stater and mag sprocket cover on the pro Stihl's, plastic on the Echo and many other manufactures pro saws. To me I almost prefer the plastic covers, as the mag covers seem to crack pretty easy. Now the case I want that to be mag. I honestly don't see anywhere other pro saws are any better than the 590, other than weight, and maybe the air filter. Now if you start comparing Husky and Stihl saws in the same price range as the 590, things become comical, as the other guys have nothing that comes close.

The 590's are built in Japan. Remember we're dealing with Yamabiko now. The 590 is a Shindaiwa designed. 



 

[ladylake]

  Some are built in Japan and some in the USA.  I'm not to sure how much Shindaiwa is in the CS 600 590 or 620 as the CS600 came a while before the merger. I wish they would have left the Shindaiwa out of the CS500p as it is down on power compared to the CS 510,520 and 530 Echo saws but it is 1/2# lighter.  Being a little absent minded as usual when I was out milling today cutting off log ends I was thinking that my CS500p was really starting to cut good only to look at it and it was my cs530.  I used my CS500p after that and the power is down quite a bit from the true Echo saws. The CS500p is still a good saw but the older 510-530 saws are great saws.   Steve

[jargo432]

Mine was made in Japan.  As for the chain, I've got a  Nimbus 2000 on it.  :D

(I hope you got that joke)

Actually I like the fact that you don't have 15 different chains and bars to pick from at Echo.  I just took what was on it and love it.

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[Andyshine77]

  Some are built in Japan and some in the USA.  I'm not to sure how much Shindaiwa is in the CS 600 590 or 620 as the CS600 came a while before the merger. I wish they would have left the Shindaiwa out of the CS500p as it is down on power compared to the CS 510,520 and 530 Echo saws but it is 1/2# lighter.  Being a little absent minded as usual when I was out milling today cutting off log ends I was thinking that my CS500p was really starting to cut good only to look at it and it was my cs530.  I used my CS500p after that and the power is down quite a bit from the true Echo saws. The CS500p is still a good saw but the older 510-530 saws are great saws.   Steve

To be completely honest I found the opposite, the older 50cc Echo saws were quite pitiful without modifications IMHO. The CS500P runs quite nice out of the box. Maybe not as strong as the other pro 50cc saws, but not bad. So much so I'd look at you're tuning, because the 500 should outrun the 530.

So far the combining of the two companies, has been a positive. I've always liked the quality of Shindaiwa products, especially their blowers and trimmers.

The CS600p CS550p, CS590, 600p and 620 are all Shin designs.



 

   

[ladylake]

  Yes the old 510, 520, and 530 were just so so as they came but really picked up with a muff modd and good tuning and they out cut my new CS500p (for sure a Shindaiwa design) muff modded and tuned good by quite a bit. The only hope for the CS500p is it might pick up some as I only have about 6 or 7 tanks through it.  Andy did the Shiny 598 come out before or after the CS600p, it could have copied Echo if it came out after..  I have a Shinny 488 also that is not even close in power to the 50cc Echo saws, even less the my CS500p, but it's light and built good.  I just looked over on the as site, they claim the Shinny 598 is a rebranded Echo 600p sold only overseas  Steve

[John Vander]

Maybe the Echo saws made in Japan are for export only. I might be wrong. A famous local brand here is Zenoah, but rediculously overpriced.

[7sleeper]

Zenoah = Red Max = Husqvarna = Jonsered => Zenoah now belongs to the Husqvarna group.

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[isawlogs]

It will be the people that never ran a well tuned one that disagree .  Steve

  I beg to defer to that coment....... Now it is true that I have not bought one recently, but they have not shown me any reason to trade my Stihls for one.

[John Vander]

Noticed an Echo saw yesterday at a construction company. my Apologies. ;D

[CTYank]

Jargo, may your new Echo work long and well for you. Some folks thrive on perceived nits to pick, while not subjecting their favorites to the same scrutiny (like, cost analysis).

I'll be looking for the ongoing story of how it adapts to a working life.

[chester_tree _farmah]

Jargo, may your new Echo work long and well for you. Some folks thrive on perceived nits to pick, while not subjecting their favorites to the same scrutiny (like, cost analysis).

I'll be looking for the ongoing story of how it adapts to a working life.

Ditto