A Few Pics of "Spare" Time

Eggsander · July 08, 2002, 06:29:32 PM

I put them in an album instead of posting them all here. Wouldn't want to use up too much server space.

Just a few shots from last Spring and lately.
http://www.hpphoto.com/home/ViewMyAlbum.asp?coll_id=1708956
The whack of pine I was working on over the weekend was supposed to have been a one day job (ya right!). I still got two logs laying there. Between chipped carbide, a not-so-good re-tip job, and being generally too D@mn hot, the job didn't get all the way done. But it will. ;)

Paul_H · July 08, 2002, 08:33:35 PM

I enjoyed the pictures,Eggsander.Nice setup.It looks like the young fella could be an upcoming sawyer. 8)

Kevin · July 08, 2002, 08:40:14 PM

Nice job Egg!
Are you satisfied with the performance?

Frank_Pender · July 08, 2002, 08:59:28 PM

Nice "whacks" of fiber, Eggsander. You will be able to recall with much pride the days you sawed the lumber for the new addition. 8) You might have to invest in a metal detector for sawing logs that might have tramp metal. :'( I found taht it payed off in a very short while due to tooth costs and down time. ;) Keep is posted on the house progress? It is always fun to see the comptetion of ones efforts.

ARKANSAWYER · July 09, 2002, 06:39:02 AM

NICE JOB!
But I have a Q. How do you get stacking sticks? I produce mine when I trim the flitches but you do not have to do that. What does you do?
ARKANSAWYER

HORSELOGGER · July 09, 2002, 08:48:58 AM

Arky, When I swing saw, I make stickers as I edge. You side shift over 3/4" and flip over and cut em loose. When I get into a face that has some defects, i will cut them out by making stickers through that area untill a better board shows. ( by the way , my Lucas has been sold to a guy from Cal. and will be crated and shipped off this week :'( still trying to settle the love hate relationship with the woodmizer. some days its ok and some days I would rather have kept swinging! One thing I can say, with out a doubt, judging not just by my own experience, but by looking at other guys lumber to, a swing blade mill makes CONSISTENTLY more accurate lumber than a band mill, and does it for less money, but you will work harder to get it ;D

Norm · July 09, 2002, 10:01:10 AM

Nice pics Eggsander, thanks for sharing them, sure makes nice lumber out of those big logs. I know what you mean about to darn hot, we've been running about 95-100 degrees in our saw shed, makes for some long days.

WoodChucker · July 09, 2002, 10:31:10 AM

Nice, thanks for letting us take a peak!

R.T.

J Beyer · July 09, 2002, 01:30:44 PM

Can you post a pic of your log bunk/holder combo to keep the logs from rolling? It would be neat to see what people do to keep their logs on a swinger mill from rolling. I have a few ideas for a "log holder". I'll go over it with my engineering friends with my ideas this weekend and report back.

JB

Weekend_Sawyer · July 09, 2002, 01:56:08 PM

Nice operation you have there. I would like to see one of these mills closer. anyone in Maryland have one?

Jon

woodmills1 · July 09, 2002, 07:08:13 PM

yes i was wondering how you keep the log from rolling or changing it's position to the saw. on my woodmizer if i off clamp i make some nice wedge shaped stuff.

DanG · July 09, 2002, 08:59:01 PM

Those are called "clapboards."

:D :D

JD_Kid · July 09, 2002, 08:59:24 PM

Hi ya's
good pic's and good to see another swing mill working ;) as for log's rolling i have not had a prob with mine the frist log i did was draged in place with a dozer once i cut down to 5 inch off ground i left a 4 inch high lip on the right hand side (makeing a big L) the next logs get rolled on from the left and pushed hard against the lip then 2-3, 2 inch wheges taped in on the left hand side stops the logs rolling,the only prob i have had is cutting 2X6 (2 inch down 6 inch wide )if cutting the 6 inch last on my mill the weight lies on the back side of the blade if i cut the other way 6 inch down 2 inch wide no probs
catch ya
JD Kid

Eggsander · July 10, 2002, 06:24:33 AM

Thanks for the comments guys.

I am very satisfied with the mill's performance, just not always with my own. :-/ Every time I think I'm set for a big production day something gets in the way (ie: nails, weather, poor planning, a touch of heat stroke, the beer fridge, etc. :

)
You can still pick off the stickers as you go, like Horsey said. Most of mine so far I have cut on the tablesaw from dry stock. Haven't you bit the bullet and ordered your swinger yet Arkansawyer? ;)
The log bunk in this case is just 4 x 4's and shims for leveling. I use wedges on both sides to hold the log still. I haven't had a problem with big logs moving on me yet. Real small logs can be a pain. I've had the best luck so far using a big log that is partially sawed as a table with a fence on the right side like JD_Kid explained. The problem there comes when you're taking the last board or two off. The cant is too light and it wants to draw into the saw.
JB I'd really like to see what you've come up with. I've done a little cyphering on that myself but have yet to come up with something simple and all-purpose enough.
JD_Kid, stick a few thin tapered chunks in your back pocket. As you're sawing down the log horizontally slide one into the kerf every so often. The riving knife is enough to keep the stock off the blade, but on thicker stuff the pressure can turn the saw a bit. I've cut timbers up to 8 x 10 this way with no problems. 8)
If there was audio you'd here me saying to the boy "See, ain't this cool. You know when you get a little bigger I'll maybe let you help too!" :D I think he's buying it so far, but he's pretty sharp. :P

ARKANSAWYER · July 11, 2002, 06:42:18 AM

  I have the order form filled out but have not sent it off for the swinger yet. I sawed a 44 inch 12' red oak on my WM and Wanda was groaning. About 700 bdft from that one log and Jeff has a photo maybe he will post it soon. I could have used a swinger on it for sure. I have some very nice 4/4 x 25" boards and 2, 8/4 x 20"
   Horselogger,
  You will learn to love your band and in this heat you will love the less physical work. How did that Hickory turn out? I must have missed the post. Did you get some 0.055's?
ARKANSAWYER

HORSELOGGER · July 11, 2002, 09:43:31 PM

No siree I did not get the 055s. The hickory is a distant memory now ( still have the slab pile stashed for winter though ;)) I brought 2500 feet of that nasty ol hickory to the flooring guy to be planed and molded, and he definatly removed me from his christmas card list :D That was some embarrasing stuff to bring to another wood professinals shop.

I have a lot better luck with cherry and red oak, but I still am trying to get the "swing " of this bandmilling. Hey! maybe thats the problem ;D

woodmills1 · July 12, 2002, 07:46:08 AM

I have had the most trouble with hickory. needs very sharp blade with little set and very slow feed. also turn often or yes it will be some embarrasing looking stock. gives "rough" cut a whole new meaning

Texas Ranger · July 12, 2002, 10:55:19 AM

OK, I have no idea what a swing saw is, unless they call it something else in Dixie.

Show it to me, PLEEEEEEAAAAAAASSSSSEEEEEEE!! ;D

Tom · July 12, 2002, 11:12:52 AM

Here's a thread where Tillaway is showing his new one.
https://forestryforum.com/cgi-bin/board/YaBB.pl?board=sawmill;action=display;num=1026081727

And Eggsander shows how one works
http://www.hpphoto.com/home/ViewMyAlbum.asp?coll_id=1708956

DanG · July 12, 2002, 02:38:08 PM

Don, the swingblade saw is like a Skilsaw on steroids. It is mounted on a track that is moveable vertically and horizontally, and the saw pivots so that the blade can be either vertical or horizontal. You make your first cut, and when the saw exits the log, you pivot it 90 degrees to make the second cut on the return pass. It is set up so that the second cut intersects the first cut at the bottom, at a 90 degree angle. Presto......a board is born.

Then you move the track the appropriate distance (board size + kerf), and start the process over. They are pretty quick, but look like they would work yer hiney off.

Texas Ranger · July 14, 2002, 09:49:51 PM

sounds like to much hard wood for a southren boy, all the mechanizm to maintain, we'uns just got out of the saw pit.
(Deliverence in the back ground)

Eggsander · July 15, 2002, 08:45:37 PM

I wouldn't think it'd be that tough for you Don, I've heard so much about that Texas Swing

ARKANSAWYER · July 16, 2002, 06:29:25 AM

You have to see what they Swing down there in Texas and it is not work. Though there is saw dust on the floor but, you wear Ropers and not steel toe boots. YEE HAA! 8) 8)