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General Forestry => Tree, Plant and Wood I.D. => Topic started by: OHBucknut on January 26, 2019, 08:33:01 PM

Title: Black willow I believe
Post by: OHBucknut on January 26, 2019, 08:33:01 PM
I think I have a bunch of black willows. They are willow for sure and I think they are the black variety. 

I was wondering if they are any good for lumber or anything. I am going to get rid of them anyway. 

I have OWB if not any good for lumber I can burner anything 
Title: Re: Black willow I believe
Post by: billporterfield on January 26, 2019, 08:44:38 PM
Depending on the size. They make good caskets wood.
Bill
Title: Re: Black willow I believe
Post by: Southside on January 26, 2019, 08:49:17 PM
My eyes deceived me when I read the title and I was expecting a photo of a nasty arachnid you found in your bag of grapes today.   :D
Title: Re: Black willow I believe
Post by: Magicman on January 26, 2019, 09:19:11 PM
I have sawn many Mbf of Black Willow that was used for paneling in homes.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/DSCN0855.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1425516523)
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/DSCN0859.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1425516545)
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/DSCN0860.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1425516561)


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/DSCN0857.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1425516642)
 
Several examples of Black Willow.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/DSCN1140_28Small29.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1347822991)
 

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/DSCN1143_28Small29.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1347822994)
 
A bit more.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/DSCN0303~0.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1442771563)
 
Some logs are almost as dark as Walnut while others have a honey color but both are very pretty.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/DSCN0307~0.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1442712187)
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/DSCN0308.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1442712201)
 
Two more examples of different colorations.
Title: Re: Black willow I believe
Post by: lxskllr on January 26, 2019, 09:29:44 PM
That's good looking lumber. Willow kinda stinks when burned. At least weeping willow does. Wouldn't stop me from using it if it were dumped in my lap, but I wouldn't go out of my way for it for burning purposes.
Title: Re: Black willow I believe
Post by: OHBucknut on January 26, 2019, 09:50:13 PM
I am building a barn this spring (stick built) think I can use these willows for studs? 2x6s

I have a lot of them they need to be cut because that where my barn is going. And I do not have access to any pine or fur
Title: Re: Black willow I believe
Post by: Magicman on January 27, 2019, 07:54:30 AM
Studs should work.  Take side lumber off of each side of your targeted center cant and then saw through.  Don't split the pith. 
Title: Re: Black willow I believe
Post by: OHBucknut on January 27, 2019, 12:38:07 PM
 

This is a picture does someone want to confirm they are black willow?

Not the best with tree ID but getting better
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/53515/6273C9E4-67C6-40C7-B9C5-F3BB92D72001.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1548610580)
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/53515/F801826B-572A-4214-B765-8A16BDF139BE.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1548610610)
 
Title: Re: Black willow I believe
Post by: gspren on January 27, 2019, 01:42:22 PM
Don't know about black willow but the willows around here make lousy firewood, heavy when green and dry really lite, not worth the space in my woodshed.
Title: Re: Black willow I believe
Post by: lxskllr on January 27, 2019, 02:30:32 PM
Doesn't look like willow I'm familiar with. They're a wetland tree. Are they near water, or wet ground?


edit:
If it is black willow, I'd be leery of building where black willow was growing. Seems like it could cause problems(water) going forward.
Title: Re: Black willow I believe
Post by: OHBucknut on January 27, 2019, 07:39:54 PM
That tree is 15' from a crick... the ground used to be wet but I have since redirected the water. Sandy soil and drains very nice. I am confident they are willows. 

I'll try to take a picture of a few more some have tripled coming from the stumps. 

And yes willow is very lousy firewood. I will burn it in my OWB to get rid of it but won't go out of my way for it. I was wondering for framing materials or wood working.