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Ginseng?

Started by KyMasterLogger, December 06, 2008, 02:34:03 PM

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KyMasterLogger

any of you guys look for ginseng while your out in the woods?  im always looking for it.

beenthere

Don't need it, don't look for it... ;D
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I've thought about it but never can remember to. :D
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KyMasterLogger

last year a dry pound of wild ginseng was bringing 550 dollars a pound.  i look at it like finding money laying on the ground...

Chuck White

I've heard that it is worth quite a lot.

I also know that it grows around this area too!

Don't do me much good though, I don't know what it looks like!
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Bibbyman

Here in Missouri there is a season and a size limit on ginseng.   There were too many people digging it all year round and not letting it go to seed.  They also dug every plant they found.

Dad hunted ginseng and other roots all his life.  He knew were "patches" were and he'd visit them every fall.  He'd only dig the bigger plants and then replant the seeds in the hole.  He'd get real mad when he'd return to a patch and find someone had dug everything.





Dad and I went out this spring to see if this patch on our farm was still there.  There were severeal small plants.  We went back this fall and couldn't find them again. >:(



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Shotgun

Are you the owner of the land on which you would be looking for ginseng?   ???

Quote from: KyMasterLogger on December 06, 2008, 02:34:03 PM
any of you guys look for ginseng while your out in the woods?  im always looking for it.
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SwampDonkey

Too far north up here for it. The only close thing to it are sarsaparilla and spikenard. The latter is a huge herb growing up to 6 or 7 feet around here with black stems and red berries.

There was a push around here years ago to introduce it, but it never took.
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KyMasterLogger

Quote from: Shotgun on December 06, 2008, 05:13:15 PM
Are you the owner of the land on which you would be looking for ginseng?   ???
not usually, but i always ask permission before i dig. usually, the owner does not care.


i think you guys are confusing ginseng with viagra... ;D :D

easymoney

there used to be a lot of people around here that dug ginseng. my father in law bought it for resale to bigger dealers. it was not uncommon for him to have several thousand dollars tied up at a time in ginseng. and other roots. there are a lot of roots, leaves even bark that grows wild in the woods that there is a market for but as far as i know ginseng is the most valuable. there is a law against digging it until a certain date in the fall. he refused to buy it until that date but as soon as the season opened up he would buy all anyone would bring even knowing it was dug far ahead of time and had been drying for weeks. some of the diggers was not the most upstanding citizens. one trick i heard about was taking a razor blade and making a small slit in a root and inserting a small lead shot to make the root weigh more. i dont know how sucessful anyone was with that trick. i heard that a lot of the sing goes to china. they think it has medisonal properties.

sawguy21

It became the crop of the future here a number of years ago. A lot of otherwise arid land was put into ginseng to satisfy the demand from China, there are still huge fields under black netting around Cache Creek and Lilloet. By the time it matured, apparently 8 years after planting, the market had died. ::)
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timberfaller390

We had a patch that was raided and cleaned out. It was a wild patch about 50 yrs. ago when my grandpaw first started digging "'sang" in that area. Now it is completely wiped out. How'd you like to take care of something for 50 years and then some thievin polecat just walks away with it. It would be pretty healthy for them to stay out of the woods for awhile.
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Corley5

I've never paid any attention and wasn't even sure what ginseng looked like.  Last summer I came across a patch of a different looking forest plant that caught my eye and I wondered if it was ginseng.  After reading this thread and looking for some pics I think it maybe.  I'm gonna check next summer.  How does it react to the forest canopy being opened up  ???  I don't want to kill it by cutting the timber before I can dig some of it ;) :)  If it is indeed ginseng.
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SPIKER

I've never found any on my place, worked with a guy who hunted it a lot on state property, I have planted some 3 or so times now on my place but have never had any luck with it growing...  I have others plants but no ginseng, have some stuff I could sell if I could find a market even :o
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Shotgun

Greg,

If it is ginseng and you open the canopy, it will be hard on it.  I'll try to make arrangements to come over next summer and take a look at it to see if it is ginseng, if you like.

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SwampDonkey

Corley, do you know wild sarsaparilla? Jeff has some up on his place I assume with the photos he posted. Sometimes it's hard to remember details when your just casually glancing down at it as you walk bye.
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Corley5

It could be either one or something else entirely  :) :)  Positive ID will have to wait a few months.  It's on a "real estate cut" that I'll be starting late this winter or early spring so it's going to be opened up.  If it is ginseng maybe I could transplant it my woodlot  ???  Come on over anytime Norm  8)
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SwampDonkey

I don't know anything about growing it, but if it don't like direct light, probably by the end of the summer it won't like the flush of new growth crowding it out either. ;D
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sawguy21

It seems to like heat but not direct sunlight so the growers cover it with huge sheets of black mesh suspended about 2 feet off the ground. The prime area is in the semi desert on the east side of the coast mountains, the only natural vegetation is grass, sage brush and some pine. This is often the hottest spot in the country with summer temperature well into the 100's.
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Redonthehead

I've planted LOT of it. Actually made some money. But there is a reason its so valuable - its very difficult to grow it to maturity in the "wild".  The soil in my woods was 1) too fertile making it grow too fast (didn't look "wild" enough) 2) the soil had too much clay content. After about 8 years the root would be down deep enough to where it was too damp and it would develop root rot.  A massive ice storm which stripped my trees to "telephone poles" was the straw the broke me. 

PawNature

I put out quite a bit on my property on the shady side of the hill. All I did was rake the leaves back and sow it pretty much like you would grass seed. Its about 5 years old now. I have dug some but most is still pretty small.
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Quote from: Corley5 on December 07, 2008, 09:56:30 AM
I've never paid any attention and wasn't even sure what ginseng looked like.  Last summer I came across a patch of a different looking forest plant that caught my eye and I wondered if it was ginseng.  After reading this thread and looking for some pics I think it maybe.  I'm gonna check next summer.  How does it react to the forest canopy being opened up  ???  I don't want to kill it by cutting the timber before I can dig some of it ;) :)  If it is indeed ginseng.

65-75% shade is about optimal.

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