timberking

[cherish]

my dad is looking to buy a saw mill i think we have decided on timberking. We both agreed on the TK2200 for size. but when we called to order the sales person was pushing the TK2000 model. So with decisions hard enough to make as uneducated as we are on the subject. Can i please get some recomendations.

[thecfarm]

I have no idea the difference between the two. Yes,the 2000 maybe what you need at this time, But the 2200 maybe just right 2 years down the road. It's hard to see what is waiting for you down the road,even if you think you do know.
What is the plan for the mill?

[ladylake]

 Unless you do a lot of big logs a 2000 with a diesel should work just as good as the 2200.  The 2000 will handle a 36" log easy with 16" above the blade for odd shaped ones.   Steve

[cherish]

i own a tree removal business and live in southern nm. i have an abundance of pine logs so instead of paying to dump them might as well try to mill them. we are thinking rough cut lumber mostly. also would like to mill mantles juniper and cedar.

[cherish]

so is there that much difference between gas and deisel

[ladylake]

 A diesel uses about 1/2 the fuel and will last a lot longer plus less maintenance, if you do a lot  of sawing the payback in the extra cost should be around 3000 or less hours. The 38hp gas motors have plenty of power but like their gas.  Steve
 

[drobertson]

I can only guess that the salesperson made his recommendation from a few questions about your fathers intentions with the mill.  That said, Steve makes a good point, the only issue is the cost differential between the two, and the budget.    david

[thecfarm]

I hear the horrors of carb problems. I have a 20 hp Honda. So far,I've been lucky. I'm a hobby sawyer, may sit for a month without being used. A diesel can sit and wait,IMHO.But a gas does not like to sit. But a diesel is louder too.

[barbender]

What's the difference between the 2 models? Diesel is better than gas in almost every way performance wise, but they are more expensive to buy and to fix. I have a Woodmizer LT40HD diesel, sometimes I miss my little gas manual mill when I just want to rip a board in half on a cold day or something, it's a chore starting the diesel and letting it warm up. The diesel will pay you back in fuel savings and faster sawing.

[Tom the Sawyer]

I think that the 2000 is their most popular, full-sized, mill and it is extremely capable.  The 2200 is slightly larger and has a much more powerful engine.  I would think that a 2000 w/ the diesel option would be able to handle anything your are considering.  The 2200 and 2400 give you even more power which would let you work even faster.  They might be overkill for your use and a waste of money unless you have the staff and equipment to keep up with the mill's capabilities. 

[ladylake]

 The 2200 will handle a 39" log and 24' long plus comes standard with a diesel.  A 2000 with a gas is about $10000 les than a 2200, a 2000 with a diesel is around $6500 less than a 2200 .  If not doing big logs a 2000 will work.  Steve

[TimGA]

   I also think you lose a foot of log length when you put the diesel on the TK2000, small design change on carriage to accommodate size and weight of bigger motor.
                                                                                   Tim

[JSwigga]

I think they have a tk 2000 on hand they are trying to unload. I just got my 2200 but I talked to Will and he didn't try to push a 2000 on me.  The other guy that bought a 2200 when I did, said they tried to get him to buy the 2000 and not the 2200. 
   I love my 2200 so far.  It's a monster mill that can handles the big logs.   I haven't had any problems with the setworks that people seem to have.   The only thing I would change on it would be the stroke of the 2 plane clamp.  It should be longer. 

[JSwigga]

The tk2000 should be fine for you if you are cutting mainly pine, juniper and cedar.  I went with the TK2200 because we cut mostly hardwoods and quarter saw big oak and sycamore.  The big oaks can be tough on smaller gas engines. 

[thecfarm]

ladylake,quite a price diffeance from gas to diesel  But only a 1000 on the bigger model. I'd go for the bigger.  ;D

[ladylake]

ladylake,quite a price diffeance from gas to diesel  But only a 1000 on the bigger model. I'd go for the bigger.  ;D

I think you misread it, it's around $10000 difference but the 2200 come standard with a diesel.  To Timga I don't think you lose any cutting length a diesel on a 2000 as it fits real neat and tidy, I could be wrong as in the past.  Steve

[thecfarm]

Yea,I guess I missed something there.  :

[Sawdust Lover]

I don't think that it's that they don't have a 2200 built and they have to many 2000's I think it's because they are very honest people and don't want you to spend more then what you are needing. If that was a car dealership you be calling for an escort and they would try to sell you a Lincoln. I own a 2000 Timberking and want to trade it for a 2200. They told me the same thing and its because the 2 mills are almost identical except for the engines and an extra set of wheels. I can saw almost anything a 2200 can saw and almost as fast. So you have to ask yourself is it really worth $10,000.00. That's a lot of wood! I want to upgrade because I do want a diesel and I slab most of my logs so I need every inch I can get. The 2000 is an awesome mill!

[backwoods sawyer]

these is 1,200 lb differece in the two mills that is more then just the difference between gas and deisle :P

[Sawdust Lover]

these is 1,200 lb differece in the two mills that is more then just the difference between gas and deisle :P

Extra set of wheels and a diesel motor I would say 1200lbs heavier. Your right!

[pine]

Basic 2200 will do 24 ft logs
Basic 2000 is limited  to 21 ft logs
There are more differences than just price and motor.
Go to their web site and check it out for more differneces.

[Sawdust Lover]

Basic 2200 will do 24 ft logs
Basic 2000 is limited  to 21 ft logs
There are more differences than just price and motor.
Go to their web site and check it out for more differneces.

I don't need to go to there website I have been to there factory. I have seen both machines side by side when I went out to pick up mine. I never said they were identical. I said they were almost identical. This is why I am upgrading for the extra 3' in length and horsepower.

[Woodkiller]

A couple things to consider. I also have a TV 20TH and if you are going to saw mobile it is LONG. I have done a couple of jobs in urban areas that I just barely made it into. The 2000 is a heavy mill, and I pull it with a 3/4 ton truck. I hosted the Timber King demo last year and spent several hours talking to Matt. They push the 2000 over the 2200 for several reasons. The size is one, and the diesel is a option that make the largest difference.  The 2400 and 2200 use basically the same frame and both are very good machines. I for one would upgrade to the diesel and be real happy with the 2000. It is close to 35 feet long when you factor in the tongue and the central command post. I have no regrets with my mill.

[cherish]

I would like to think everyone for their input very informative and helpful.

[Larry]

With the diesel or electric option on the 2000 the carriage is a foot longer reducing overall log length by a foot.

While it is true the mill will saw a 36" perfect log, the carriage only goes up 29".  The extra height above the band and wide throat are great features. 8)