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Started by SwampDonkey, October 16, 2004, 06:37:54 PM

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WDH

I will defer to some other southern or even northern boys  ;D.
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Dodgy Loner

I'll defer to doctorb, since he answered correctly. :)
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Texas Ranger

The good doctor has southern genes in there some where. 8)
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Dodgy Loner

Yep, that leaf looks curiously similar to a turkey oak leaf, but the long petiole gives it away!
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SwampDonkey

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doctorb

Quote from: Dodgy Loner on March 04, 2013, 12:23:39 PM
Yep, that leaf looks curiously similar to a turkey oak leaf, but the long petiole gives it away!

1.  That's the first "tree" question I've ever answered correctly here.  Even a blind squirrell finds an acorn...

2.  But now I've got to research both the turkey oak and the petiole, as I haven't a clue about either.

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Texas Ranger

Ah, doc, we will have you enrolled in forestry classes before long.  Then it will be corks, tin pants, plaid shirts, and a double  smiley_chop bit ax on your shoulder.
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SwampDonkey

I'm thinking Doc's looking forward to a trip to his camp about now. ;D
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WDH

I hate to be a dissenter, but I believe that it is what was once thought to be a variety of southern red oak, cherrybark oak.  The base does not have that "bell shaped" roundness that is typical of southern red oak.  The Doc still takes the cake, though  :D.
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SwampDonkey

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1 Thessalonians 5:21

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WDH

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SwampDonkey

A lump er a bump on a log. Maybe even a  knothole. :D
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1 Thessalonians 5:21

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doctorb

Quote from: WDH on March 04, 2013, 07:58:17 PM
I hate to be a dissenter, but I believe that it is what was once thought to be a variety of southern red oak, cherrybark oak.  The base does not have that "bell shaped" roundness that is typical of southern red oak.  The Doc still takes the cake, though  :D.

Well, I do not mind being corrected, but, if it was once thought to be cherrybark oak, what's it thought to be now? ;D
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WDH

Back when I was in school, Cherrybark oak was considered a variety of Southern Red oak.  A while back, it was accorded species status.  The distinctions between the two are very very small. 
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Dodgy Loner

You may be right, Danny, but that shape is not atypical of southern red oak in my experience. A three-lobed leaf is, however, atypical of cherrybark oak, at least from what I have seen. Not unheard of, but not typical. Which is why I think it's southern red.
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WDH

The base is all wrong.  Maybe it is a Texas Mutant Southern Red Cherrybark Oak.  Heck, in some places there in Texas, you can't even get pork BBQ.  Now, what kind of way is that to be  ???.  That just ain't right. 
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SwampDonkey

They probably don't taste as good over there. Tough old hogs. :D
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1 Thessalonians 5:21

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OneWithWood

Southern red sounds like some variant of scotch or cannabis. 
If there is no good BBQ in some parts of Texas, avoid it like the plague!  :o
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beemickdee

Hey guys-

I've been burning this recent dead fall (came down last winter) the past few days, and it is GREAT. Burns hot, and for a long time. I don't know if I'm just enamored because I've mostly been burning walnut and it's a warmer day (high 40s), but...it's just great. I think it's red oak, but I need some confirmation.

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catskillpond

We tore down an old barn today i was told the floor joists were chestnut there was not the bold grain i am used to seeing in older homes the growth rings were very tight but they were sawed to modern day dimensions any help would be appreciated  Thanks Scott
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beenthere

Post a good pic showing the end grain, and we'll be able to tell much better.
A thin clean-cut slice scanned on a scanner is a good way to get a pic. Most printer/scanners and computers will have that capability.
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WDH

The rays will not be visible like in oak, and the earlywood pores will have tyloses (crystalline-like deposits).  The latewood pores are arranged in wandering radial lines (toward the pith). 
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kwendt

I have found the following tool very useful...

Forest Trees of Maine: Centennial Issue 1908 - 2008
It has color pictures of berries/fruits/seeds, bark young and old, buds, leaves, known range and other identifying characteristics. It ALSO has this nifty 'identify your tree' section (one for winter time, another for summer time)... where you answer a bunch of questions, and it narrows down what type/kind/species of tree you're trying to identify. Very very useful...

Granted... likely most useful for Canadian and north eastern US... only.


http://www.maine.gov/dacf/mfs/publications/handbooks_guides/forest_trees/index.html

You can buy it (hand spiral bound, plastic coated pages, for field use) or download the .pdf for free.
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TimberKid

So I know we got plenty of douglas fir in the willamette valley but anyone else know what hardwood is out here besides just maple and the occasional oak and the even less occasional madrone?
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