How not to do it

whitepine2 · May 05, 2014, 09:46:02 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzd8WtVJVfc

Warning Bad language, but link left for it's educational (don't do this at home) value

beenthere · May 05, 2014, 11:19:36 PM

Language inappropriate for FF, but one should never stand on a ladder to cut off limbs... IMO. Seems they always will fall in such a way to wipe out the ladder (minimum) and ladder and operator (maximum) as happened. Threw him like a rag doll.

Ianab · May 06, 2014, 12:40:56 AM

Language warning, but I'm inclined to let it stay as it's such a good example of Darwin at work... :

As soon as the clip started I wondered exactly how he was going to be taken out. I didn't see it panning out exactly as I did, but I knew it wasn't going to end well.

Ljohnsaw · May 06, 2014, 12:49:20 AM

Ianab,

I kind of expected the branch to swing around and catch him from the other side or knock the ladder out from under him. Wow, just so wrong. I don't think he walked away from that one.

Claybraker · May 06, 2014, 07:15:59 AM

1. Ladder not properly secured.
2. Maximum safe working height exceeded.
3. Worker not wearing safety belt, or any other PPE as far as I can tell.

thechknhwk · May 06, 2014, 05:54:23 PM

This happened in my hometown where the kids go to school, but I don't know these guys. I hope the dude is alright.

doctorb · May 06, 2014, 06:10:20 PM

Man, is this thread titled correctly. If I have to use a chainsaw at height, I'm hiring somebody else to do it. I know, some may say that's a luxury. If you're not experienced with such things, it's a life-saver. Hope he's OK.

thecfarm · May 06, 2014, 06:28:37 PM

I could only watch it once. :(

John Vander · May 06, 2014, 07:29:05 PM

Ladders and chainsaws don't mix. A couple of months ago a guy here was paralized for life...same situation. He decided to take down the top of a huge Ginkgo tree. Climbed up 9meters and the top swung around knocking him off. Spine and legs smashed up. Anybody with a bit of experience knows that side branches either swing back at you or kick back.

clww · May 06, 2014, 08:15:06 PM

Epic FAIL! :

Dave Shepard · May 06, 2014, 08:19:26 PM

Quote from: thecfarm on May 06, 2014, 06:28:37 PM
I could only watch it once. :(

Yeah, I don't want to watch it again either.

Someone posted a pic on another forum of a guy way up a tree on ladders. The first ladder was in a skid steer bucket, and the next was resting on a crotch. It said the guy was 84. Amazing, people like that usually don't last too long out of the crib.

beenthere · May 06, 2014, 08:45:33 PM

What is interesting, the guy is using the saw left handed (at first). Then he uses just his left hand to hold the saw while the right hand appears to reach around the right side of the tree. Even clicking through the video slow, it is hard to see just where that saw ended up.
But the guy holding the ladder appears to have taken that limb on the head (if not, DanG close as I see it).

No hard hats, in addition to the many other things that are just not right... or too smart.

Then again, sometimes you make do with what ya got... be it brains, knowledge, or equipment. And hope for the best, or a short hospital stay.

Corley5 · May 06, 2014, 09:07:01 PM

Wow :

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WmFritz · May 06, 2014, 09:50:31 PM

Quote from: thechknhwk on May 06, 2014, 05:54:23 PM
This happened in my hometown where the kids go to school, but I don't know these guys. I hope the dude is alright.

A local news story said the guy that fell was OK, but sore.
I don't know them either, but being we're a smaller community, somebody does.
I'll get the dogs on the trail tomorrow. :D

thecfarm · May 06, 2014, 09:52:39 PM

I'n shocked that he did not broke something. That was a quite a height he fell.

jargo432 · May 06, 2014, 10:27:17 PM

How would a person with limited equipment cut limbs that are high? (without becoming a led kite)

Ianab · May 06, 2014, 11:22:12 PM

Quote from: jargo432 on May 06, 2014, 10:27:17 PM
How would a person with limited equipment cut limbs that are high? (without becoming a led kite)

Only suggestion I have is Don't.

There are various ways of doing it, but they are all going to need some equipment and training. Either ropes and climbing equipment, or a Cherry picker. Cutting a tree from the ground isn't so bad, but once you take a chainsaw 20ft in the air, you best know what you are doing. :P

Ian

colincb183 · May 07, 2014, 12:06:56 AM

That was pretty hard to watch. :-\ Before I even started running a saw, my dad taught me that chainsaws and ladders DO NOT mix

SLawyer Dave · May 07, 2014, 03:08:55 AM

I admit, I've used the ladder and saw, and know it is a dangerous combination. However, I have Never been that high off the ground, and always on the back side of the tree with the tree between me and the limb so that it can't kick back and take me off the ladder like that. I'm always more worried about the limb wrapping around the trunk and taking the ladder out. I'm glad he appeared to not be more seriously injured. Very lucky man.

Claybraker · May 07, 2014, 06:45:56 AM

Quote from: jargo432 on May 06, 2014, 10:27:17 PM
How would a person with limited equipment cut limbs that are high? (without becoming a led kite)

The way we used to do it at the phone co. was with a manually operated pole saw standing on the ground. It's still dangerous, but at least you've got an escape route.

As for working off a ladder, we had straps to secure the base of the ladder to the pole, a rope to secure the top of the ladder, and a safety harness that went around the pole and through the rungs of the ladder. Pretty annoying when you open up a terminal and stir up a hornets nest. You'll get stung a bunch, but you won't fall. :-\

Dave Shepard · May 07, 2014, 09:18:47 AM

Quote from: jargo432 on May 06, 2014, 10:27:17 PM
How would a person with limited equipment cut limbs that are high? (without becoming a led kite)

The same way you would do brain surgery, hire a professional. ;D

LittleJohn · May 07, 2014, 10:31:31 AM

WHY EVEN CLIMB THAT LADDER

??? fall the tree and limb it on the ground.

I'm sorry but some people should be required to pass a basics skills class before being allowed to operate certain pieces of manchinery/equipment. There are a few people I know that appear to have a hard time operating a even a simpple HAMMER some times, and they haven't even been drinking

P.S. I think the saw was thrown to the back of the 40, might want to go look for it

timberlinetree · May 08, 2014, 05:13:21 AM

Wow! Glad he's OK. We take down a lot of big trees and one problem with big limbs like that is you have to cut them fast with a big saw or they will tip land and shoot the but just like the video. A rope tied to the limb then thru a crotch/pully is the best way.

Ianab · May 08, 2014, 05:18:16 AM

Quote from: timberlinetree on May 08, 2014, 05:13:21 AM
Wow! Glad he's OK. We take down a lot of big trees and one problem with big limbs like that is you have to cut them fast with a big saw or they will tip land and shoot the but just like the video. A rope tied to the limb then thru a crotch/pully is the best way.

Yes there are various ways to do it safely. Standing on a ladder under the limb is not one of them...

Ian