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General Forestry => Sawmills and Milling => Topic started by: Kevin_H. on November 01, 2003, 07:49:10 PM

Title: Lumber Prices?
Post by: Kevin_H. on November 01, 2003, 07:49:10 PM
Does anyone else get the email from Rockler Woodworking?

I got one earlier this month stating they had a fantastic find...
six Appalachian Walnut boards, estimated at 40 years old, now this stuff is kiln dried and "nearly" clear...They are asking $8.00 a board foot.

Now I dont know if "Appalachain" walnut is something special, but come on $8.00 a Board Foot..

Maybe it's because it's 3" thick, but come on $8.00 a Board Foot.

These are the prices per board listed:

* 7" x 97" board, Price $121.60
* 11" x 99" board, Price $181.60
* 7" x 117" board,  Price $146.40
* 9-1/4" x 121" board, Price $186.40
* 9-1/4" x 108" board, Price $166.40
* 15" x 98" board, Price $244.80
Title: Re: Lumber Prices?
Post by: ARKANSAWYER on November 01, 2003, 07:57:34 PM
  I got some "Ozark" walnut that I saw when I was 40 and I could be talked into letting it go for half that other stuff.  Mines pretty clear to as I hit very few nails.
ARKANSAWYER
Title: Re: Lumber Prices?
Post by: Ron Wenrich on November 01, 2003, 07:58:15 PM
I asked a question about Appalachian red walnut several months ago.  No one ever heard of it, but one woodworker I know gave me the heads up on it.  Could this stuff be "Appalachian red walnut"?

Of course, Frank seems to get nearly those prices for pin oak.   :D :D
Title: Re: Lumber Prices?
Post by: Kevin_H. on November 01, 2003, 08:32:38 PM
I'm not sure ron, maybe we need to find a pic?

But still $8.00 A board foot?

Hmm, I wonder if they need any So. IL Red Oak?

You know if I spent that kind of money of a pc. of wood I dont think I could bring my self to cut it up!
Title: Re: Lumber Prices?
Post by: EZ on November 02, 2003, 02:52:47 AM
My neighbor bought 3 sheets of walnut plywood for $240.00 a sheet about a year ago. I told him, boy they really seen you coming. He was sawing the first sheet and the saw kick back and ruin the sheet. :-/
EZ
Title: Re: Lumber Prices?
Post by: solidwoods on November 02, 2003, 05:06:18 AM
Kevin
40 yr walnut is prety young.  I would say street price America,,$4 -$6 per bf,,Rockler marks up plenty.

Overall $8bf is not high for valuable woods.

I have some 113yr pine from the attic floor of a house for $10bf.
Yea go price cabinet grade ply!
Check out one of the hot ones Bamboo Ply, it's 100-125 a sheet.
JIM
Title: Re: Lumber Prices?
Post by: Frank_Pender on November 02, 2003, 06:31:32 AM
You are correct, Ron.  I just paid $18 a sheet for 1/2"  4 ply CDX on Friday.  I got a deal at that, it goes for $22 + right now, around here.  Some places can't even get the CDX 4 or 5 ply.  I just got $1,400 for 600 sq. ft. of 5/4 x 6 Wester Oregon White Oak. kiln dried. ;D  For some of my gunstock blanks that are 4" x 8" x 4' I have gotten up to $300 per blank. ;D  
Title: Re: Lumber Prices?
Post by: Ron Wenrich on November 02, 2003, 07:46:53 AM
Your gunstock blanks are over $28/bf.  Frank, you are the marketing wizard!   :D
Title: Re: Lumber Prices?
Post by: Frank_Pender on November 02, 2003, 10:02:32 AM
No, Ron, I do not think that it is being a marketing wizard, just good fortune on some days.  If  :'(I was a marketing wizard I would not have any lumber laying around as I do.  I have several thousand feet of various species; Walnut, Maple (spalted), Fir, Cottonwood and Oak.
Title: Re: Lumber Prices?
Post by: bull on November 02, 2003, 04:38:26 PM
Supply and demand !!! If they need it they will buy it !!!
 And why shouldn't we reap the benifits...  8)
 If we in the wood buisness don't get whats rightfully ours
we could end up like the Dairy Farmers !!!
 Been there done that, and got the Hell out before I lost my shirt !!
Title: Re: Lumber Prices?
Post by: Stephen_Wiley on November 02, 2003, 05:07:48 PM
How much would you pay for native Oregon Black Walnut?  ???
Title: Re: Lumber Prices?
Post by: Ron Wenrich on November 02, 2003, 06:05:16 PM
Isn't that an exotic species for Oregon?  All the dendrology books I've seen has the walnut range stopping on the western plains.  
Title: Re: Lumber Prices?
Post by: SawInIt CA on November 02, 2003, 06:18:49 PM
I get $20-$30 a BF for walnut burl. Our cheapes is $4 a bf...Rustic grade ;D. I sell everything but gunstocks before it dries. Yes indeed...Supply and demand
Title: Re: Lumber Prices?
Post by: Stephen_Wiley on November 02, 2003, 06:49:27 PM
Ron,

Yes, the dendrology books due show Juglans nigra in their native range. Their are several other varities with 'Black' characteristics. However, it was brought to my attention about 10 years ago - one tree found sporatically throughout the valley does not match the criteria described by published know spp., however it appears similar to Black Walnut.

Within a 45 mile radius of where I live I have been able to identify the following known species of Juglans  :

Hinds Walnut  hindsii - a variation of the California Walnut
California Walnut californica
Arizona Walnut major
Texas Walnut microcarp
Black Walnut nigra
Japanese Walnut ailantifolia

Their is also plenty English and a few Butternut.....but these were excluded in the study of the 'mystery' walnut growing here.
Title: Re: Lumber Prices?
Post by: Kevin_H. on November 03, 2003, 05:26:00 PM
Maybe I'm just not doing a good enough job of marketing?

Might have to call the tree service back, He's got some cherry logs, says I can have'm for 50 cents a board foot.

Title: Re: Lumber Prices?
Post by: Kirk_Allen on November 03, 2003, 07:20:59 PM
Kevin,
give me his number, Ill buy the cherry for that price!

Better yet, you buy them for .50 cents bf and I will buy them from you for .55 cents bf.  Everyone wins 8) 8)
Title: Re: Lumber Prices?
Post by: solidwoods on November 04, 2003, 04:54:19 AM
Kevin

$500mbf sounds a little high, tree service (urban logs should be down graded for tramp metal). Are they big healthy sweeties for that price?
JIM
Title: Re: Lumber Prices?
Post by: oakiemac on November 04, 2003, 05:31:18 AM
I just bought 954 bd ft Doyle scale for forest grown Cherry. I paid $.6/bdft. So far I've ran about 15% over scale. ;D
I think I'll make out all right on the deal. Some of the logs are small and crooked though.
Title: Re: Lumber Prices?
Post by: Kevin_H. on November 04, 2003, 02:41:32 PM
Too busy sawing today to call, but the more I think about it the more I think I will take'em, Now If I just had the kiln!

oakiemac are you keeping the cherry or selling it?

Kirk, I think you've got enough already  ;D we need to spread it around a little more.
Title: Re: Lumber Prices?
Post by: Duane_Moore on November 05, 2003, 08:27:33 PM
 ??? live in northern calif and walnut burls go high down here guys, gun stock dealers buy them up Quick, just cut 9- 73 year old walnuts down, grafted from black to calif walnuts, got one hellova price for the burls. roots and all.  still have about  7 burls in the wood shed, only 55 yrs old but big, they will go to friends for bowles and Ink pens and and turning,   Duane
Title: Re: Lumber Prices?
Post by: SawInIt CA on November 05, 2003, 09:00:28 PM
Duane I see you are only 2 hours from me. Do you have a mill?