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Started by OffGrid973, November 09, 2015, 12:47:15 PM

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OffGrid973

For those with fork lifts I envy you, but curious if anyone has some "mods" that help get logs on the trailer besides those lessons learned from the Egyptians, minus the boat trailer winch :)

Pics would be great !!!

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Jeff

Search the forum for the term parbuckle.
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beenthere

What equipment do you have?  Or are we looking at it in this pic?
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Ljohnsaw

Also, since you already have a winch and your fenders are high, you can make an arch on the back of your trailer.  I don't remember the name of it but you make a tall frame with a cross member up high and hinged where it meets the trailer deck.  You have it leaning way out (45°) with a chain or cable down to the log (log tongs will come in handy) and  your winch pulls the top of the frame back.  That lifts and moves the log toward and up on your trailer.  Things to consider is a chain or cable to prevent the arch (and log) from falling on to the trailer should you pull too far (over center).  You will use several pulls to inch (well, several feet at a time) the log on to your trailer.  With the right hinge points, and a pulley block, you could manage to unload with it as well.  Though, tying the log to a fixed object and driving your trailer out from under it would work, too.
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This video was posted by TomtheSawyer some time ago.  I believe there have been a number of different versions built.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PNc5ITIFjo
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SFires

I really like your trailer redprospector a set up like that would sure be handy to have around
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redprospector

Quote from: SFires on November 09, 2015, 09:15:51 PM
I really like your trailer redprospector a set up like that would sure be handy to have around

Thanks. It's handy as a shirt pocket (old saying).
I've hauled a lot of small logs for firewood with it, and some pretty nice logs for the mill.
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BCsaw

redprospector, that's just unfair.....apparently I don't have enough shirt pockets!

Man, that is the ticket.

All joking aside, very nice machine!
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redprospector

Quote from: BCsaw on November 09, 2015, 10:23:12 PM
redprospector, that's just unfair.....apparently I don't have enough shirt pockets!

Man, that is the ticket.

All joking aside, very nice machine!
It may be a little unfair, but I've loaded them the hard way for a long long time. I've parbuckled them up on a gooseneck, I even built a lifting arch like the one that deadheader/DanG built, way back in the past. In 2001 I shattered my left knee rolling logs off the side of a gooseneck. My wife decided then that whatever it took, I was going to have a safer/better way to handle logs. I started with the flatbed dump trailer, then when wwsjr decided to sell the knuckle boom I bought it. Even a new one is cheaper than a shattered knee.
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YellowHammer

I mounted this pickup truck service crane to my dump trailer.  It worked great, would dead lift 3200 lbs over the side, would reach out with an extending boom, and would fish logs with its crane winch from a decent distance away. 
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kelLOGg

I can parbuckle from either side of the trailer. That suits my situation because I sometimes load city logs which takes less linear space than loading onto the rear.
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drobertson

Quote from: kelLOGg on November 10, 2015, 06:22:11 AM
I can parbuckle from either side of the trailer. That suits my situation because I sometimes load city logs which takes less linear space than loading onto the rear.
Bob
This has to be one of the slickest low budget ones I've seen, very similar to how we've done it in the past, cwimer, you can either modify your trailer for side loading,(guards over the fenders) and add some stake pockets, or keep doing it the way you are. I have one customer that still does it the way you do, fenders are just pain in the rear sometimes,
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OffGrid973

You guys are the best, I have new project for the winter time when the snow falls.  For those newbies like myself here is a quick image :).




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WV Sawmiller

C973,

   Hopefully some of the parbuckling experts here will chime in but I thought last time I saw this come up I was advised the line went over the top and pulled under the log to make it roll. I think I was told as your design shows the log would slide rather than roll.

   Old timers - plz advise.
   
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Jeff

Wrong. It is pictured correctly.  (Non oldtimer)
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Kingmt

Quote from: cwimer973 on November 10, 2015, 07:04:13 PM
You guys are the best, I have new project for the winter time when the snow falls.  For those newbies like myself here is a quick image :).





That is how I do it with the addition of a cant hook to keep it going right or to help it over a hump.
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WV Sawmiller

   I guess I am going to have to go parbuckle a log to resolve this in my own mind. In the thread "Parbuckling trailer" of 28 October 2015 (I think it was in urban forestry)  I asked this same question in response to a photo there and the answer was over the log and verified by the MagicMan.
Howard Green
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Jeff

You could, or you could just go watch this video. I think you are confused on how that log was rigged in the topic you mentioned. Magicman confirmed it was rigged correctly, not that your observation was correct.

https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=85082.msg1304923#msg1304923
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Outer Rondacker

Guess I just learned something. Thanks guys.

Kbeitz

You want the log to turn with the roll not against it...
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