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CSM ( Timberjig) stopped cutting

Started by hammerfore, October 18, 2014, 12:31:31 PM

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hammerfore

       While using my timberjig the other day it just stopped cutting. No amount of pushing would get it to move . Chain is sharp and was cutting fine untill it wasn,t. I tried a new cut and after a few inches the same result. Just to be sure I had the local chainsaw guy look at it. Other than being a little worn the chain and bar looked ok to him, although he was unfamilliar with ripping chain. The chain is not rubbing, not over heating, If I rock it a little it willsometimes bite and move forward a little then the same thing. When it is cutting it cuts great. It was starting to washboard so I may have an issue with an unevenly sharpened chain but I cant figure out why it is stopping dead. Any help would be great as the field of downed trees near my house, white and red oak as well as cherry is disapearing into the nieghborhoods firewood stacks quickly. Thanx   

hammerfore

     Just to be clear, the saw is running fine. It just stops cutting.

beenthere

Welcome to the Forestry Forum.

That is puzzling. Does the saw cut if removed from the timberjig? Just a thought to isolate it to being just the chain, as it sounds like a chain/tooth problem.
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jssmitch

check your chain sprocket, could be the problem.  Make sure it is not slipping on the shaft.
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mad murdock

Welcome to the Forestry Forum hammerfore!  I have a timberjigg, and when I use it I have to really watch that it is cutting square and straight. Takes a bit of getting used to, as it requires more attention to detail than the Alaskan MK III I have.  If the bar starts to wander in the cut, it will just stop. No matter how hard you push. Get a string and check the cut for straightness along the length of the cut. Other than that, a little more info as to your saw setup or maybe a pic or 2 of your milling progress showing the cut and when and where it stops would certainly help us in helping you pinpoint the issue(s) you may be experiencing.
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terrifictimbersllc

Could be your bar groove is opened up a bit too wide and needs closing back down with a bar rail closer ($20 from baileys). This can allow the chain to set up at an angle and do nothing else. Also check front of bar is square, if not make a jig with a block of wood and a file set into a groove in the wood at right angle .
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mikeb1079

i had this exact same problem a while back on my csm.  chain was turning and saw was fine but chain wouldn't cut! 

two things: 

i believe that i was not filing my chain properly.  i wasn't using a guide and was not filing that critical upper corner of the tooth, i was filing too low.  thus, the chain would not bite.

what dennis said:  the bar groove could be worn to the point of not allowing the chain to bite
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Nomad

     Welcome!  You mentioned that your chainsaw guy thought your chain looked a little worn?  Are your depth gauges filed low enough?
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celliott

Maybe posting a few detailed pictures of your chain and bar could help determine if it's a B+C problem.
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mikeb1079

QuoteYou mentioned that your chainsaw guy thought your chain looked a little worn?  Are your depth gauges filed low enough?

ahh good point.  i've know many a fellow (myself included) that had no idea you were supposed to file your depth gauges as well as your teeth
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hammerfore

          I took a closer look at my chain and while it appeared sharp that upper corner was indeed ery dull. I resharpened it on my grinder, just a harbor freight one but if you pay close attention it does a pretty good job. Back to the woods and I,m makin saw dust and stacking boards. Thanks to all who replied for your help and suggestions. How did we get anything done in the days before forums !!!!? 

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