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Re: Building a mill.. The winch..
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2018, 02:11:29 PM »
That shouldn't be an issue. Your only using 3 foot of cable to raise a mill full height
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Re: Building a mill.. The winch..
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2018, 02:12:26 PM »
I ended up with acme threaded rod for raise and lower. Some ways I wish I had gone simple with a winch but have to much invested not to change.
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Re: Building a mill.. The winch..
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2018, 03:09:28 PM »
Just a thought... If you use a worm driven winch you wont have
to worry about the handle getting away from you.
Only around $40.00 on E-bay. When you let go of the handle
it stays where you left it.
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Re: Building a mill.. The winch..
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2018, 03:20:43 PM »
And you could make it powered by taking off the handle and using a cordless screw gun.
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Re: Building a mill.. The winch..
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2018, 03:57:44 PM »
That shouldn't be an issue. Your only using 3 foot of cable to raise a mill full height

That's what I was thinking but wanted to send it out for others thoughts.. I think it will be very minimal change, which will be divided when the cable is attached in multiple spots..

Just a thought... If you use a worm driven winch you wont have
to worry about the handle getting away from you.
Only around $40.00 on E-bay. When you let go of the handle
it stays where you left it.

Well good. Because that's what I just ordered from HF..   I liked the looks of the handle on the front. 

Thanks all
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Re: Building a mill.. The winch..
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2018, 04:00:03 PM »
I had a worm gear winch on my DIY mill, it works but slow, I also had a brake on the saw frame to make sure it did not creep while sawing.

I can't remember the pull rating on mine but the larger the capacity the slower it will go. I guess that is why you often see a lift assist on factory made manual mills, a lift gas shock or garage door spring sort of setup then you can have a high ratio lift mechanism that is fast and requires little effort to move and hold in place.

If I was making a stationary mill and weight did not matter I would be tempted to use a counter weight.

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« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2018, 04:15:08 PM »
I had a worm gear winch on my DIY mill, it works but slow, I also had a brake on the saw frame to make sure it did not creep while sawing.

I can't remember the pull rating on mine but the larger the capacity the slower it will go. I guess that is why you often see a lift assist on factory made manual mills, a lift gas shock or garage door spring sort of setup then you can have a high ratio lift mechanism that is fast and requires little effort to move and hold in place.

If I was making a stationary mill and weight did not matter I would be tempted to use a counter weight.

I like the idea of a clamp and a torsion rod. I have my feelers out for some garage door parts..

I'm also thinking about some type of secondary tensioner/handle on the cable. It will tighten the cable just enough for the blade to clear the log while backing up, but leaving the winch in its original location.
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Re: Building a mill.. The winch..
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2018, 07:15:38 PM »
I ended up with acme threaded rod for raise and lower. Some ways I wish I had gone simple with a winch but have to much invested not to change.
what kind of acme did you use? I see surplus center has what they are calling lead acme thread. I would think it would be soft and wear out quickly
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Re: Building a mill.. The winch..
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2018, 08:26:56 PM »
Whatever linn lumber sent me. The threaded block is brass so the rods should last just fine. its 1". 5 turns per inch of travel.

The blocks are just solid so I think I am going to drill and tap them for grease fittings.
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Re: Building a mill.. The winch..
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2018, 08:46:17 PM »
I wouldn't. I'd lubricate with a fine lubricant.  Grease, fine sawdust, threads, BAD!
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Re: Building a mill.. The winch..
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2018, 09:52:09 PM »
I ended up with acme threaded rod for raise and lower. Some ways I wish I had gone simple with a winch but have to much invested not to change.
what kind of acme did you use? I see surplus center has what they are calling lead acme thread. I would think it would be soft and wear out quickly
It depends on how you pronounce it!  I think they meant leed as opposed to led.  i agree, lead (led) would be pretty soft! :D
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Re: Building a mill.. The winch..
« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2018, 07:45:23 AM »
I just tacked up a HF worm gear winch to my mill in process.  Yes it is slow to go from the bottom to the top.  For making 1 inch adjustments it doesn't seem too bad.  Works great if you remove the handle and use a cordless drill.

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« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2018, 09:48:31 AM »
I just tacked up a HF worm gear winch to my mill in process.  Yes it is slow to go from the bottom to the top.  For making 1 inch adjustments it doesn't seem too bad.  Works great if you remove the handle and use a cordless drill.

Better yet if you attach a wheelchair motor to it.
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« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2018, 11:34:00 AM »
I just tacked up a HF worm gear winch to my mill in process.  Yes it is slow to go from the bottom to the top.  For making 1 inch adjustments it doesn't seem too bad.  Works great if you remove the handle and use a cordless drill.

Better yet if you attach a wheelchair motor to it.
Ugh, yup thats the plan.  Wouldnt you know I get a townwide email that a local resident is giving away (AKA FREE) a powered wheel chair.  Naturally i was number 2 in line and number 1 took it!

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« Reply #34 on: January 16, 2018, 11:36:04 AM »
I just tacked up a HF worm gear winch to my mill in process.  Yes it is slow to go from the bottom to the top.  For making 1 inch adjustments it doesn't seem too bad.  Works great if you remove the handle and use a cordless drill.

Better yet if you attach a wheelchair motor to it.
Ugh, yup thats the plan.  Wouldnt you know I get a townwide email that a local resident is giving away (AKA FREE) a powered wheel chair.  Naturally i was number 2 in line and number 1 took it!

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« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2018, 12:25:36 PM »
I just tacked up a HF worm gear winch to my mill in process.  Yes it is slow to go from the bottom to the top.  For making 1 inch adjustments it doesn't seem too bad.  Works great if you remove the handle and use a cordless drill.

Good idea with the drill. I plan to put a small steering wheel on mine..

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« Reply #36 on: January 17, 2018, 09:21:41 AM »
Or use a 12 VDC tarp motor.  I'm using one of these: LINK

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« Reply #37 on: January 17, 2018, 09:39:42 AM »
I would be real interested to know how that works I am using a wheelchair motor.
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« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2018, 02:49:34 PM »
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I would be real interested to know how that works I am using a wheelchair motor.

Have you guys considered a power window motor from a car?
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« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2018, 04:31:27 PM »
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I would be real interested to know how that works I am using a wheelchair motor.

Have you guys considered a power window motor from a car?
I wouldn't think it would hold up.  Don't think they are made for the duty cycle (unless you have a 5-year-old...) or the power that would be required.
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