Historic Logging and Milling Photos

[Den Socling]

They have one of the loaders at the Lumberman's museum west of Coudersport that was mentioned above.




That place is a nice place to visit.

[Fla._Deadheader]

Notice all the "scrap" logs in these old photos?? Remember, this is mostly VIRGIN timber. Grandad used to tell about the 18" clear red oak boards he used to haul off the mill and throw into the burn pile. Couldn't GIVE it away, he said ???

[CHARLIE]

When I worked for the railroad back in the early to mid '60s, we used to haul gondola after gondola full of pine stumps. I was told that they were being shipped up to either Georgia or Tennessee to make gunpowder. I never figured out how they burned so many stumps unless they used some kind of gas furnace with super hot temperatures.  I often wonder if they still use stumps for gunpowder or if they found something else. :P :

[Texas Ranger]

Charlie, I think that they were being shipped to be distilled for turpines.  If the cellulose was used in gun powder, it was a secondary use.

[CHARLIE]

You are probably right. I was just repeating what another railroader told me and he was probably guessing. How the cathair did they get turpentine out of those stumps, Don? Do you know?  When I say gondola after gondola of stumps I mean in the hundreds of gondolas. Must've been a lot of land clearing somewhere. Nice to know they had a use for the whole tree.

[DanG]

As far as I know, they're still making gunpowder from pine stumps. Ther are folks making a living pushing them up and shipping them to Brunswick, Ga., where there is a gunpowder plant. They make pretty good money from it, too.  I think they can only use old growth stumps, so the industry is sort of petering out, around here. I guess, when we run out of old growth pine, we'll have to find a new way to blow ourselves up.

[Ron Scott]

Early Pettibone Cable Skidder for Tree Lenghth Skidding. Manufactured in Baraga, MI. 1965 Photo.

[Ron Scott]

Scaling a Load of Cedar from National Forest land. St. Ignace, MI; Fall 1966.

[Corley5]

There's a local logger around here that was running a Pettibone just like that one as late as last spring that I know of and I'd bet it's still in the woods working.

[Tom]

Gunpowder? yer DanG tootin'

Hercules Powder Company buys stumps and will stump your land if you have good ones.   There is a lack of big ol' fat lighter stumps like there once was so Hercules has even experimented with injecting trees that are due harvest to try to create a fat stump.  How much success there was, I don't know.  They still have some stump buyers in the woods.  I talked to one the other day in Folkston, Ga.

Hercules Brunswick Plant click for info

[Ron Scott]

Underwater Logs. Salvaged from North Twin Lake; Phelps, Wisconsin; 1960.

[Fla._Deadheader]

That's exactly what ours look like. Notice the rounded ends. Thats the way they look from the water current, kind of sandblasting the edges. Nice logs !!  Harold

[Jeff]

Harold,

Bet you didnt know that our Ron Scott is an avid diver and the Author of a book on underwater logging. Written in the 60s!

I got me a signed copy and I sure am proud of that!

I hope to get him to give me permission someday to put it on the web.

[DanG]

Any idea where a fella could get a copy of Ron's book? I'd sure like to have one.  Howzabout it, Ron?

Hey, I got an even better idea!  Ron, get back with the publishers and have another printing done...mebbe 5,000 copies, or so.  JeffB could buy'em all and use them for ForestryForum gifts.

 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

[Jeff]

Yup. But I'll have to use the DanG bank to do it. ;D

[Fla._Deadheader]

HEY HEY. I want one of them books too !!!! It's GOTTA be signed. No Ginerical copies fer me, RON. What's the scoop on the name and availability???  Can I get Ron to come down and show me how to do this?? I'm always lookin fer a better way to do things. Why hasn't this news flash appeared sooner??? Youse guys been holdin out on me ??? >:( ;) ;) :'( :'( :D :D  Harold

[smwwoody]

Ok

Where's my book

Did you get them all signed??? :D

[Jeff]

Woe!
I Don't want this to get out of hand now. I don't know what the availability is of the book if any, or what the price is now.


The Book is Titled
Underwter Logging.
Cornell Maritime Press,Inc.
1964
Currently out of print

[Ron Wenrich]

It's ranked #561,846 at Amazon.  There are no copies available, but you can put in an order.

[Tillaway]

Powell's doesn't have it either.

[Fla._Deadheader]

Here's one way of doin it!  Kinda sneaky. Not my way !!

 
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[johncinquo]

I have used that alibris service a couple of times myself.  They have inventories of book stores all over the world and find the book you want and it is shipped directly to you from the store.  I found a couple books there that were not available anywhere else.  It proved to be a great service, but it could come down the specific store that has the book and how they handle it.  I talked with a guy who was in the Grand Rapids Press a couple years ago who "fished" logs out of the northern great lakes. The water is cold and low oxygen so the logs are preserved well.  It was really neat to see the wood.  They either sold it to high end furniture makers, or super quality veneer makers.  Some of the prices on the logs were amazing, but where are you going to get that type of wood again?  We used to get a couple logs a year out of the Muskegon river, but now if you move a log you will get a ticket and fine.  I still have a couple end marks around somewhere.

[Paschale]

It's great seeing these old pictures!  Here's one I found on another forum, so it's not copyrighted.  This is what the poster had to say about it:  

    I am told by the Kentucky state historian that this picture was taken in the late 30's or early 40's in eastern Kentucky--I don't know the town. We are guessing that the tree is a large poplar or possibly a white oak. There are many records of trees this size taken out of Kentucky and West Virginia in the late 1800s and early 1900s.

[Jeff]

[SteveS]

I recently found an old book of my dads that was titled "Farm Forestry". I thought I would try to share some of the old photos that were in it  I hope I can post the picture all right. This will be my first time to try.