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General Forestry => Tree, Plant and Wood I.D. => Topic started by: Georgia088 on December 17, 2017, 09:02:28 PM

Title: Another tree to id pls
Post by: Georgia088 on December 17, 2017, 09:02:28 PM
I have another tree on the property that I am beginning to saw up that has fallen over recently.
Thanks for the help I am still tree id stupid.



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Title: Re: Another tree to id pls
Post by: Southside on December 18, 2017, 12:17:15 AM
Elm?
Title: Re: Another tree to id pls
Post by: kelLOGg on December 18, 2017, 06:47:49 AM
The wood looks like black oak.
Title: Re: Another tree to id pls
Post by: TKehl on December 18, 2017, 07:24:38 AM
First thought is Hickory, but not sure. 
Title: Re: Another tree to id pls
Post by: nativewolf on December 18, 2017, 07:38:19 AM
if you could slice the end grain off and get a close up , really close, that would be the most helpful.
Title: Re: Another tree to id pls
Post by: nativewolf on December 18, 2017, 08:42:36 AM
also post it to the tree id section of the forum,
Title: Re: Another tree to id pls
Post by: Georgia088 on December 18, 2017, 11:39:41 AM
Sorry, I thought I posted there.  :-\ also, had a local guy look at pictures and he said possibly black walnut. He said he couldn't tell for sure without seeing it in person.
Thanks again.
Title: Re: Another tree to id pls
Post by: Weekend_Sawyer on December 18, 2017, 12:28:16 PM
I thought elm too.
Whatever it is those are nice looking boards!
Title: Re: Another tree to id pls
Post by: Wudman on December 18, 2017, 03:33:49 PM
How about locust?  An up close end grain could confirm or deny.

Wudman
Title: Re: Another tree to id pls
Post by: Georgia088 on December 18, 2017, 08:30:15 PM
Well, I took a piece of the wood to the local guy that I feel is extremely knowledgeable about wood. He said the pictures didn't depict the wood very well. im kinda embarrassed to say, but he said he thought it was either sweet gum or popular. The tree has been dead some time so I never saw the leaves. I have sawn some sweet gum before and it didn't look like this, but I'm far from an expert. I was extremely dissapointed to say the least after he suggested it may possibly be black walnut from the pictures.
Title: Re: Another tree to id pls
Post by: nativewolf on December 18, 2017, 08:57:59 PM
well it wasn't black walnut, didn't have time to reply to that but...it isn't.

However, if that is sweetgum..then that is nice looking sweetgum.  That nice brown center, and that bark...had me thinking maybe honey locust? or ?  Bark is strange..it is not poplar, poplar heart won't be so brown, bark does not look like that at all, unless picture is crazy. 

They are nice looking boards.  A close up of the end grain will tell much more.
Title: Re: Another tree to id pls
Post by: Southside on December 18, 2017, 09:10:36 PM
I have seen black gum with heart wood that looks like that. 
Title: Re: Another tree to id pls
Post by: nativewolf on December 18, 2017, 09:17:13 PM
Yes, ok that would make more sense, nyssa sylvatica, not the l.s.  That would be about right.  Very tough durable wood if that is what it is.
Title: Re: Another tree to id pls
Post by: Southside on December 18, 2017, 09:22:02 PM
And in one or two of the pictures the bark looks right for black gum, at least the little I have seen. 
Title: Re: Another tree to id pls
Post by: Georgia088 on December 18, 2017, 09:51:41 PM
I will post more pictures tom if it will help. I have never heard much good said about sweet gum lumber. Would black gum be about the same? I actually thought it was an oak and was going to use it for flooring for a playhouse for my kids. Could this still be possible?
Title: Re: Another tree to id pls
Post by: DelawhereJoe on December 18, 2017, 10:05:07 PM
The blackgum we have around here has a very light color to the wood, an easy way to tell if its blackgum is to try to split it with an axe. If its sweetgum it will be hard to split and if its blackgum basically you will have to rip the wood apart by the grain its a very jagged split. Do you know how long the tree has been felled or is there any chance of finding a leaf still holding onto a branch ?
Title: Re: Another tree to id pls
Post by: Southside on December 18, 2017, 10:08:39 PM
I have seen sweet gum used in a random wood floor and it worked fine.  Remember there was a day when monster spruce were felled only to provide a soft landing for the kings white pine.  The "junk wood" spruce were left there to rot after. 
Title: Re: Another tree to id pls
Post by: Georgia088 on December 19, 2017, 09:01:07 AM
Here are a few more pictures.



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Title: Re: Another tree to id pls
Post by: bluthum on December 19, 2017, 07:30:27 PM
No offense but your pics just aren't very descriptive. But it looks to me like sweet gum. Sweet gum has a lot of different uses, you just have to use it appropriately. It isn't very rot resistant and is prone to warp but I've used it for siding and flooring for out buildings. Success  or not is in the details.
Title: Re: Another tree to id pls
Post by: WDH on December 19, 2017, 08:04:06 PM
It is sweetgum.
Title: Re: Another tree to id pls
Post by: tobryant1 on December 21, 2017, 08:54:43 PM
I concur it does look like sweet gum.  It can be used to build with as long as it is not directly exposed to the elements.  I used to think that gum could only be used to make railroad ties after heavy chemical treatment with creosote. But we have used a few boards here and there in some of the old barns my father and I built over the years.