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Title: New splitting axe , traditional or new style ???
Post by: shortlogger on January 04, 2017, 04:33:41 PM
My dads old axe that I have split wood with for years 25 years has a crack in the eye and I'm thinking about buying a new one .
Does anyone have any recommendations on what's the best out there ? I've been looking at a council tools 3.5 jersey classic but I've heard that the fiskers splitting axes work really good but I can't get past the non traditional look of it . Im kinda stubborn about changes . I'm open to suggestions, I want something well made and balanced and preferably American made .
Title: Re: New splitting axe , traditional or new style ???
Post by: Ljohnsaw on January 04, 2017, 04:40:33 PM
I've got a 6 or 8 lb maul that I used a LOT when I had the ranch.  Man, that is a lot of work and having to rescue it with a splitting wedge...  I recently picked up (3 years ago?) a Fiskars X25 and love it.  If I were to do it over, I'd get an X27.  I get less tired with the Fiskars and can split about the same wood as the maul (oak, aspen, pine).  After seeing some posts here, I might start making "designer" firewood with the mill. :D
Title: Re: New splitting axe , traditional or new style ???
Post by: BradMarks on January 04, 2017, 04:57:07 PM
Been debated on this forum before I believe (see Fiskars axe?), so just to refresh:  Fiskars-plastic handle, lightweight, wedge shape axe/maul head, not USA, not sure about balance point.  Council-wooden handle, heavier, traditional head, US made, balance point about 1 1/2" below head(w/ 36" straight handle).   I know people who have one or the other, nothing negative to be said about either.  Personally I prefer the wooden handle for shock absobtion. Both kinds of handles can be broken.
Title: Re: New splitting axe , traditional or new style ???
Post by: 47sawdust on January 04, 2017, 06:03:43 PM
I won't try to talk you out of stubborn.We have both kinds here,wooden handled and the Fiskars 27.So if I'm feelin' modern I grab the Fiskars if I'm feelin' traditional I grab the wooden handle.I just checked with my wife and she likes the Fiskars,she splits a lot of wood for our cookstove and I'm talking rock maple,beech,and yellow birch.My favorite is the Supersplitter.
Title: Re: New splitting axe , traditional or new style ???
Post by: breederman on January 04, 2017, 06:11:55 PM
 My new Fiskers x27 was on the porch from Amazon when I got home tonight . I bought it after reading all the rave reviews on here. It feels good . I did split one piece o cherry in the dark before I came in . Didn't break the handle yet ! ;D
Title: Re: New splitting axe , traditional or new style ???
Post by: WV_hillbilly on January 04, 2017, 09:07:10 PM
I use both also  depending on my mood also.

all I can say is my son has been using the X27 for about 6 months now and it still has a handle in good shape . he is usually very hard on wooden handles . I used to buy sledge/maul handles by the 6 pack .
Title: Re: New splitting axe , traditional or new style ???
Post by: davewittwer on January 05, 2017, 02:57:36 PM
I'm a traditionalist.  My go to is a Gransfors Maul.  https://www.gransforsbruk.com/en/product/gransfors-splitting-maul/  If i were to buy new i would go that direction but Liam Hoffman makes some amazing tools as well.  They're expensive but look to be of great quality, hand forged in the US and beautiful.  http://www.hoffmanblacksmithing.com/axeordering/  I want a Hoffman in a bad way but the sticker is still hard for me to swallow. 
Title: Re: New splitting axe , traditional or new style ???
Post by: coxy on January 05, 2017, 05:08:18 PM
Quote from: breederman on January 04, 2017, 06:11:55 PM
My new Fiskers x27 was on the porch from Amazon when I got home tonight . I bought it after reading all the rave reviews on here. It feels good . I did split one piece o cherry in the dark before I came in . Didn't break the handle yet ! ;D
you are going to like it just watch your toes when splitting wood laying down I cut a new pair of shoes and got my toe just enough to make my sock red  :o :)
Title: Re: New splitting axe , traditional or new style ???
Post by: John Mc on January 05, 2017, 08:11:44 PM
I have a Fiskars X25 and love it. I can split far more wood with it without getting tired than I can with either of my mauls. I only hand split about a cord a year (the rest goes on my hydraulic splitter), but the Fiskars is what got me back into hand splitting at all.
Title: Re: New splitting axe , traditional or new style ???
Post by: shortlogger on January 05, 2017, 11:29:02 PM
Looks like there are lots of nice options out there but the ones I really like are very expensive I could get the council and the fiskers for less than many of the others . But they would be nice .
Title: Re: New splitting axe , traditional or new style ???
Post by: Chop Shop on January 06, 2017, 12:01:52 AM
Get a nice "Rafting" axe head off of ebay. 4-5lb.     Put a nice straight grained hickory handle in it and enjoy splitting with pride and ease.   

Read here,  http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/recreational_trails/publications/fs_publications/99232823/toc.cfm

It will have a very thick pair of cheeks and split very well.  They are not a chopper/faller but for splitting and driving wedges.

Plastic is for garbage bags, not hand tools.
Title: Re: New splitting axe , traditional or new style ???
Post by: John Mc on January 06, 2017, 08:22:42 AM
Quote from: Chop Shop on January 06, 2017, 12:01:52 AM...Plastic is for garbage bags, not hand tools.

I've been a big fan of wood handled tool for most of my life (at least the ones with handles made by someone who knows what they are doing - which is usually not the case for a certain mass-market mail order place whose name shall not be mentioned).

However, Logrite converted me with their aluminum-handled peaveys (though those are not impact-related tools). I've also never used a hand-splitting tool that works better for me than the Fiskars splitting axes. I'll look at wooden handles and US made first, but I will take quality and a top-notch design wherever I can get it. Having used the Fiskars splitting axe, I'm not going back to my old tools.

It would be interesting to try a Fiskars head on a good wooden handle, but I suspect it would change the balance significantly. I'm not sure how much of an issue that would be, but it would be an interesting experiment. Maybe someday if I ever brak the handle on my axe, I'll see if I can fit a wooden one on in its place.
Title: Re: New splitting axe , traditional or new style ???
Post by: coxy on January 06, 2017, 10:05:07 PM
there is no hole in the fiskars head to put a wooden  handle    the fiskars handle is wrapped around the head     just brake the handle and take a look  :)
Title: Re: New splitting axe , traditional or new style ???
Post by: albirk on January 07, 2017, 06:47:43 AM
Fiskers x27 is my choice the x25 is a bit short it stays in the camper.. If the x27 won't split it the saw will.
Title: Re: New splitting axe , traditional or new style ???
Post by: KamHillbilly on January 22, 2017, 08:02:24 AM
fiskers for me , turned a few friends on them too . I've alaways been a fan of old school axes until I got my X25 four years ago and I hand split 8 cords a year.
Title: Re: New splitting axe , traditional or new style ???
Post by: shortlogger on August 10, 2017, 03:36:15 AM
Well I broke down and got the jersey classic and I'm really happy with it but I'll probably go ahead and get the fiskars sometime before long too .
Title: Re: New splitting axe , traditional or new style ???
Post by: square1 on August 10, 2017, 04:13:54 AM
For 6 years I hand split 4~5 Fed Cord a year with an X27, sledge & wedge.  Could mange about a 1/3 cord an hour with the Fiskars in nice splitting ash.  I love that axe. Performance wise it compares nicely to the Chopper 1 (anyone remember the Chopper 1?) I used years ago "back when I was your age" ;)

2 years ago I bought (stole might be more accurate) a used hydraulic for not a lot more than some of these specialty axes cost. The hydraulic can manage about 1/3 cord an hour regardless of the wood being nice or difficult to split.

I still get the exercise, my main purpose for cutting wood, but my old joints and bones don't ache from the jarring. I can get up the next day and split more wood instead of spending time recovering from the previous day's abuse.

If you're going to split wood, watch for a good used hydraulic (or even new) splitter.  You're young now, in 20 years, you can thank me.
Title: Re: New splitting axe , traditional or new style ???
Post by: hedgerow on August 10, 2017, 07:40:18 PM
I admire people that split wood by hand not me. I have spent too many years doing maintenance work in one form of another and my old body doesn't like swings things any more. We burn 15 cord a year in my Garn  and just getting that ready with a hyd splitter is enough.
Title: Re: New splitting axe , traditional or new style ???
Post by: shortlogger on August 10, 2017, 11:04:49 PM
We burn 15 cord a year in my Garn  and just getting that ready with a hyd splitter is enough.
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Well I live in the south and it only takes me about 6 ricks (face cords) to get through a winter and I might cut a little for camp and the neighbors so maybe I split 3 or 4 cord in a year max or o might get a hydraulic splitter. When I was a kid I cut a lot more but there are not a lot of people who burn wood around here anymore.
Title: Re: New splitting axe , traditional or new style ???
Post by: Wudman on August 11, 2017, 01:50:11 PM
I have been debating on buying a Fiskars ax since the reviews on here.  I was in the local WalMart the other day and they were clearing out the garden center for "Back to School" supplies.  There was a Fiskars splitting ax on the clearance rack for $21.00 dollars.  It is now in my truck.  I went back yesterday and there was a chopping ax with a $19.00 price tag.  It is now under the back seat of my truck.  Time will tell how well they work.

Wudman
Title: Re: New splitting axe , traditional or new style ???
Post by: John Mc on August 11, 2017, 09:22:59 PM
Fiskars seems to have two different lines of splitting axes. One is the X25/X27 (and is orange &a black). The other is less expensive (and all black, if I remember correctly). I'm not really sure what the difference is.