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Started by firefighter ontheside, November 08, 2017, 05:37:50 PM

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thecfarm

1600 hours??  :o  I have no idea what year that is,but not many hours. I put more than half that on my tractor a year.
Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

firefighter ontheside

I went and looked at the 545, but passed.  It's really a lot bigger than what I want.  Great deal for somebody though.
Woodmizer LT15
Kubota Grand L4200
Stihl 025, MS261 and MS362
2017 F350 Diesel 4WD
Kawasaki Mule 4010
1998 Dodge 3500 Flatbed

DDW_OR

i have never regretted my 51 hp mahindra 4x4
but i have regretted the 22 hp mahindra
"let the machines do the work"

firefighter ontheside

Hi guys.  Getting by with the L245 for now, but saving for a new to me Kubota.  I'm planning to get one of theGrand L's once I have the cash.  I WILL sell the 245 once I have it's replacement.  With sidework and selling lumber from the mill, I hope to have the money for a tractor in about a year.
Woodmizer LT15
Kubota Grand L4200
Stihl 025, MS261 and MS362
2017 F350 Diesel 4WD
Kawasaki Mule 4010
1998 Dodge 3500 Flatbed

Crusarius

I would think the M platform would be a better option? That is at least what I have been looking at if I upgrade my L2800

pineywoods

Quote from: Crusarius on April 30, 2018, 08:09:20 AM
I would think the M platform would be a better option? That is at least what I have been looking at if I upgrade my L2800
If you are looking used, M series kubotas can frequently be had for about the same price as an L. Much better machine for sawmill support..I have an M4700 with fel with forks and a hydraulic winch on the back. Serves me well
1995 Wood Mizer LT 40, Liquid cooled kawasaki,homebuilt hydraulics. Homebuilt solar dry kiln.  Woodmaster 718 planner, Kubota M4700 with homemade forks and winch, stihl  028, 029, Ms390
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firefighter ontheside

You're right Crusarius.  I started this thread a while back asking what HP, but people pointed out that HP wasn't the issue.  I'm leaning to the Grand L tractors because they have heavier frames compared to similar tractors of the same HP.

For instance the L3800 has 38 HP and a 523 loader, where the L3830 is 38 HP and a 723 loader.  The 3830 weighs 700 pounds more, because it has a bigger frame.  
Woodmizer LT15
Kubota Grand L4200
Stihl 025, MS261 and MS362
2017 F350 Diesel 4WD
Kawasaki Mule 4010
1998 Dodge 3500 Flatbed

WDH

The M series Kubota tractors are more heavy duty for the same HP.  They are more farm/work tractors versus utility tractors. 
Woodmizer LT40HDD35, John Deere 2155, Kubota M5-111, Kubota L2501, Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln, and a passion for all things with leafs, twigs, and bark.  hamsleyhardwood.com

caveman

I like my M series Kubota. It is nimble and can move pretty good sized logs. With wheel weights, and loaded ag tires, it gets around pretty well in the sloppy stuff.  With a mill you will likely appreciate the extra capacity and ruggedness of an M series.  Don't overlook the older industrial Fords (among others) if you are considering used tractors.  They are pretty comfortable to operate and their lifting capacity is good for their size/horsepower rating.
Caveman

firefighter ontheside

I haven't seen any M series in my intended price range of 15,000.  Maybe since these tractors seem to hold their value like a Subaru, I will get something and upgrade later.
Woodmizer LT15
Kubota Grand L4200
Stihl 025, MS261 and MS362
2017 F350 Diesel 4WD
Kawasaki Mule 4010
1998 Dodge 3500 Flatbed

Bosco

Quote from: Knute on November 08, 2017, 08:40:39 PM
If you are sort of poor like me, you could use an Allis D-17 like I have. It will lift the log you mentioned with no problem. About 60 hp.
I just found a D17 in extremely nice condition, the guy got it when he bought his house, didnt know how to start it, wants to get rid of it and wants me to make an offer,I want him to give me a price, there are also dozens of implements to go with it! no bucket loader but  rakes hay ,york, bale spears a few sickle bar mowers, manure spreaders, many harrows, forks,roto tillers,back blades,box blade and much more, it has new tires and a set of chains. I jumped up and started it right off , he was surprised , I'm trying to come up with a fair offer , he said just take it and give me what its worth!, its worth alot more to me than him, aand I do need to skid a buncch of logs. So whats a fair price?

Bosco

Quote from: DDW_OR on November 16, 2017, 03:01:39 PM
i have never regretted my 51 hp mahindra 4x4
but i have regretted the 22 hp mahindra
Just pulled the trigger on a Mahindra 1538, thats 38hp, with loader and backhoe not too big to get in the woods, a lil to pertty, I think these tractors are gonna push JD and kubota aside when folks find out they are made in America and are better tractors.

Crusarius

the biggest complaint I hear about mahindra is the plastic fenders. Funny how may ppl hate that. really sad how many ppl refuse to buy it because of that.

DDW_OR

the first tractor i have used is a Kubota gray market B7001 4x4
the next was Mahindra 5520 4x4

the mahindra max 22 was purchased for my dad. it is MUCH easier for him to use compared to the B7001
the only things i regret about the 22 hp mahindra 4x4 are:
should have gone up on HP  not down
hydrostatic transmission, prefer Shuttle shift
no rear hydraulics
"let the machines do the work"

firefighter ontheside

I'm excited!  I have found the tractor I'm going to buy.  It is a 1997 Kubota L4200 with 1500 hours.  This is one of their Grand L's which are heavier than the standard L for the same horsepower.  It has a glideshift trans and 680 loader which should pick up 1500 lbs.  I'm going to trade my L245 for it and some cash of course, but I believe the deal to be very good.  I pick it up next Wednesday.


Woodmizer LT15
Kubota Grand L4200
Stihl 025, MS261 and MS362
2017 F350 Diesel 4WD
Kawasaki Mule 4010
1998 Dodge 3500 Flatbed

Bruno of NH

Lt 40 wide with 38hp gas and command controls , F350 4x4 dump and lot of contracting tools

Crusarius

I wish kubota would push that front axle further out. the short wheel base makes it turn real nice but the swing from the bucket is deadly and it limits lift capacity. If the tires are not loaded get them loaded.

DDW_OR

see if you can add some crates for storage



 

 
"let the machines do the work"

firefighter ontheside

Crusarius, I still want to be able to use the brush hog in the woods. Definitely concerned about hitting things with bucket.  I'd like to have a skid steer type quick connect to be able to remove bucket easily.

DDW, those are great ideas.  My dad has a similar setup on his 4 wheeler to carry chainsaw and other tools.  That would be nice on the Kubota.
Woodmizer LT15
Kubota Grand L4200
Stihl 025, MS261 and MS362
2017 F350 Diesel 4WD
Kawasaki Mule 4010
1998 Dodge 3500 Flatbed

DDW_OR

"let the machines do the work"

Crusarius

Quote from: firefighter ontheside on May 21, 2018, 10:11:55 PM
Crusarius, I still want to be able to use the brush hog in the woods. Definitely concerned about hitting things with bucket.  I'd like to have a skid steer type quick connect to be able to remove bucket easily.

DDW, those are great ideas.  My dad has a similar setup on his 4 wheeler to carry chainsaw and other tools.  That would be nice on the Kubota.


Wish you were closer. I have one to sell.

firefighter ontheside

My dad took two milk crates and strapped them together.  Then he cut a slot between the two where the bar can slide down.  Saw head fits perfectly in one crate.
Woodmizer LT15
Kubota Grand L4200
Stihl 025, MS261 and MS362
2017 F350 Diesel 4WD
Kawasaki Mule 4010
1998 Dodge 3500 Flatbed

DDW_OR

"let the machines do the work"

firefighter ontheside

Lots of good ideas there.
Woodmizer LT15
Kubota Grand L4200
Stihl 025, MS261 and MS362
2017 F350 Diesel 4WD
Kawasaki Mule 4010
1998 Dodge 3500 Flatbed

firefighter ontheside

Well, 6 months have gone by since I started this thread and I finally have my bigger tractor.  Traded in my L245 Kubota for this L4200 Kubota.  It's 20years old, but in very good shape.  Need to get some weight on the rear and I'll be lifting logs.



Woodmizer LT15
Kubota Grand L4200
Stihl 025, MS261 and MS362
2017 F350 Diesel 4WD
Kawasaki Mule 4010
1998 Dodge 3500 Flatbed

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