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Started by roscoe234, February 27, 2010, 10:04:32 AM

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roscoe234

Need some help with ID please.  Tree was cut here in N.W. Arkansas.  Can take more photos if need be..Thanks RR




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DanG

Loox like Walnut to me.
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roscoe234

I'm not a pro but i think i could ID walnut....To give a little more detail....My friend and arborist (loosely said) brings me firewood.  Mostly Oak from his endeavors.  This tree he's calling "yellow maple".....I aint buy'n it.  Do i need a better picture of the bark.  It splits decent and is very heavy.
RR

pigman

Looks somewhat like black locust to me. But again the color is not right for locust.
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WDH

I am leaning to the Pigman camp.  The lack of sapwood is a black locust characteristic.  A better bark would help.
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PoDunk

The bark has an x, or diamond looking pattern and the color and rings look like black locust to me too.
We just cut around twenty ricks for firewood and it splits like a dream.

roscoe234

As a kid on t he farm in Mo I remember locust with huge thorns and on the trunk as well.  It does seem to be the same color best I can remember. 
RR

VT_Forestry

I'm subscribing to black locust as well
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roscoe234

I've noticed the smell of a freshly split piece of this.....reminds me of the odor of the holding pen on the dairy, on a wet day, after the Holsteins were all milked and gone!!!
RR

WDH

Roscoe,

Thorns on the trunk means that what you are describing is honeylocust.  Black locust has simple spines (like a rosebush thorn) that are oriented on the twigs at the base of every leaf petiole.  Both are in the legume family and have pods as fruit. 
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beenthere

Quote from: roscoe234 on March 01, 2010, 03:22:26 PM
I've noticed the smell of a freshly split piece of this.....reminds me of the odor of the holding pen on the dairy, on a wet day, after the Holsteins were all milked and gone!!!

Smelt that good, huh?   ;D
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SwampDonkey

Does hickory have narrow sapwood like the walnuts? The bark doesn't look like black locust, which is thick, interlocked and fibrous. I think black locust heart has a yellowish brown tinge.

That's about the only two options I can see.

Unless the bark is spicy aromatic and the lumber looks like ash, then I would say sassafras.
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WDH

Quote from: SwampDonkey on March 01, 2010, 07:52:26 PM
Does hickory have narrow sapwood like the walnuts? The bark doesn't look like black locust, which is thick, interlocked and fibrous. I think black locust heart has a yellowish brown tinge.

No.
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SwampDonkey

Well black locust then.  ;)  But that bark sure doesn't look like it does up here. Cautiously optimistic. :D
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Dana

I don't know what it is but I don't think it's Black Locust. At least up here in Michigan the wood of B.L. has a greenish color to it. The photo below is a slab I cut recently. I'll try to get a picture of the end of a log later today.

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SwampDonkey

Dana I agree with you on the color. But, it appears to me there has been some staining going on and not that fresh a look at the log from the first photos.  But on the heartwood color of the posted photos above, it might be because of the lighting and photo optimizing, don't know. But there are only a few native trees with thin/narrow sapwood. The bark I see in the first pics is not right to me. Your bark looks like it does here as well.
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roscoe234

Sounds like i need to show a fresh look inside as well as a better bark....and not woof woof...ya can al'z count on a texican!!!!!  Think im gonna go with locust as well butttttt  i dont think there was any thorns......
RR

roscoe234

some new shots in the gallery...i think..
RR

Dana

I  was out to the farm and got a couple photos of a Black Locust log. I intentionally copied Roscoe234 photo aspect and now I have changed my mind. I think it is B.L. When I first cut the logs they were very green in appearance. Looking at them now as a few weeks has gone by, the fresh cut wood is turning brown. not as brown as Roscoes, but his may have been earlier. Also mine has that same small ring of white sap wood. 



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Dana

Where has your second photo gone Roscoe? I was looking for your photo gallery and I don't see that either!
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SwampDonkey

Go to your "Profile" page and set up your photo gallery link by adding 13536 in the field. That way we can go directly there without doing a lot of fishing around. :D

Well I guess you added the photos since.

Dig into the bark of that darn thing with a knife and see if it yellowish. That stick of wood looks like it's been laying around a few months. You sure that ain't some kind of walnut? :D
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1 Thessalonians 5:21

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Dana

SD are you picking on my stick of wood? :D I didn't feel like walking through the snow to get a photo when I have a part of the same tree in the pole barn. That stick is going to be my anvil base. :)
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SwampDonkey

Dana, not your stick, buddy what's his name and the other fella's stick. ;D
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1 Thessalonians 5:21

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Dana

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