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Re: OK guys some more input needed.
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2013, 01:51:52 PM »
Meadows Miller, I fully agree with you, my point was with knowing what a product is going for and getting plenty of calls for what you are advertising why would you drop your price? Just my way of thinking.
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« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2013, 02:36:54 PM »
If it's anything like around here, He prolly wants them gone as much as you want the logs. Pasture makes money. I would offer him $50 for a 16' trailer load.
Jake, I saw on line about a year ago that Pond Value  (logs scaled and delivered to the mill pond) on Red Ceder was $745.00 per 1000 bf.
 West coast prices.  I think that equates to 5 ten foot logs roughly 24 inches in diameter.   Any thoughts on that?  As I said, its just something I read on line.
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« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2013, 02:52:52 PM »
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I suspect that is Western Red Cedar, and quite different tree from the Eastern Red Cedar.   ;)
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« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2013, 03:00:21 PM »
Solomon
I suspect that is Western Red Cedar, and quite different tree from the Eastern Red Cedar.   ;)
I think You're right Beenthere.  I have never heard anyone speak of "pond value"  around here.   
What do you think high grade ERC logs are worth delivered to the mill?
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« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2013, 03:07:26 PM »
Cedarman would be one great source for that value info, I believe.

The market likely varies depending on the locality (as said, fence posts in TN may be quite different from KY). Form and shape of the available trees varies considerably between localities as well as within depending on growing conditions.

Estimating the lumber yield and quality in ERC trees/logs with much accuracy could be a nightmare.  And that estimate when looking at a timber stand to determine value will be important, seems to me.
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« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2013, 04:14:11 PM »
Average log price is about $400 per thousand bf. Or .40 a foot. I think this is what cedarman pays. This is price delivered to the yard. I have bought a few loads at .25 a foot but I had to go get the logs. Most cedar is sold using the cedar scale, but I have contemplated using the doyle or international just to cut back on small logs. I had an ad on cl for 6" minimum logs and got 90 percent 6"-8" logs. Maybe I just need to up my minimum.
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« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2013, 09:30:20 PM »
 I have a friend, Fellow sawyer, that only does erc. He buys his by scale. Delivered or if he harvests, priced acordingly. ERC is hard to bid even for someone with years of experience. Just so happens I planed and T&G some for him today. First paying job with my PH260.

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« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2013, 10:04:33 AM »
Wow guys so many different opinions. I think this is a good oportunity, im not sure how the marke is goin to be, A guy 10 min north sells cedar for $3bdft, and a guy 10 min west selld for $1. And there are always ppl needing fence post around here. And the fence post would be At least 5" at top and minimal sapwood. I done this 5-6 yrs ago just for extra cash and sold every load before i cut it, then ran out of post. The 88 acres is FULL of nice cedar, post and sawlogs, up to guessing 32-34". But i think im over my head working by myself, Im still not sure if it pays enough to jump in. I think i will try out jus buying by the load for now and see how it goes.
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« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2013, 12:46:40 PM »
I think that is a smart move on your part, Strunk. You can always expand later if you find that you want or need to, plus buying by the load for now doesn't give you a bad reputation if things don't go as planned. Have fun.
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