hard pine flooring

coxy · August 15, 2016, 10:05:09 PM

I have hard pine flooring :-\ in my house and want to redo it with the gym floor sealer is it possible to make it 1/4in thick if so how much do you think it will take its 24x24 and how long do you think it will take to harden thanks

cliffreaves · August 15, 2016, 11:05:58 PM

My math says it will take you 90 gallons. But that's my math, let's wait for smart people to chime in.

petefrom bearswamp · August 16, 2016, 07:51:49 AM

Paul, had a flooring guy here Sunday to set up some water damage repair.
He told me that the old standby gym seal is no longer available in NY due to our clueless legislators.
It is however available in PA.

Grandpa · August 16, 2016, 08:10:02 AM

My math says 84 gallons, but I'm with Cliff, let's wait for the smart people.

coxy · August 16, 2016, 11:24:50 AM

say_what

I thought you guys where the smart ones thanks pete

Grandpa · August 16, 2016, 07:05:05 PM

I can't speak for Cliff, but if I'm a smart people we're in trouble.

cliffreaves · August 16, 2016, 07:19:19 PM

Quote from: Grandpa on August 16, 2016, 07:05:05 PM
I can't speak for Cliff, but if I'm a smart people we're in trouble.

x2 on that!

cliffreaves · August 16, 2016, 07:26:40 PM

Here's the formula is used.

576 (sqft) x .020833333 (1/48th of 12") = 12 (cubic feet)
12 (cubic feet) x 7.48 (conv. for cubeft into gallons) = 89.76 gallons

cliffreaves · August 16, 2016, 07:27:24 PM

But I know nothing about gym floor sealer

coxy · August 17, 2016, 06:55:09 AM

all I can say about it is its tuff, shinny, lasts a long time and smells good when it goes on

Grandpa · August 17, 2016, 07:21:50 AM

Cliff's math is righter than mine. I used a conversion factor of 7 gallons per cubic foot, a quick google search shows that 7.48 is the correct number. stupid_smiley

Thanks Cliff, I learned something today.

bluthum · August 17, 2016, 10:24:27 AM

I don't know about gym floor sealer but I have varnished a lot of floors with different floor rated varnishes. There are gobs of them out there, both oil and water borne. Water base finishes dry faster so you can get outa there quicker but may not build as fast.

In order to build up a film that thick it would take a gallizon coats. Thick coats are not recommended with anything I use, any thing oil base will maybe never dry if too thick.Most products go on in multiple coats with maybe 4 or 5 being considered a deluxe floor job.

The paint industry has tools for measuring coat thickness, I think they read in mils! Only exception I can think of to the multiple coat thing is epoxy type finishes and that's a whole 'nother game.

coxy · August 17, 2016, 12:06:54 PM

my thoughts where to just put the molding on the floor base then make a 1/4in mark/border around the room then just pour the buckets down till it was even walk away and let harden :D but you guys just put a wrench in my gears

so if I am thinking this right when they put it on a gym floor there is lots of coatings to get it that thick the reason wanting it that thick is it will cover all the cracks to make it smooth my wife says its a pain in the rear when cleaning the floor to get all MY DIRT out of the cracks every day happy wife makes me a happy life thanks for all the info

Magicman · August 17, 2016, 01:51:08 PM

I guess that you could use this Torginol and use it without the flakes. ;D

coxy · August 17, 2016, 02:59:11 PM

we have the quartz stuff on our fire house floor in the bay area its not bad even when wet as far as slippery

cliffreaves · August 17, 2016, 07:04:50 PM

Could you use epoxy? I don't know a lot about it, but I know you can just pour it on and leave it to dry.

coxy · August 17, 2016, 09:15:17 PM

ill have to look in to that I am by no means a carpenter or a painter just a tree killer

Joe Hillmann · August 17, 2016, 09:28:01 PM

Quote from: coxy on August 17, 2016, 12:06:54 PM
the reason wanting it that thick is it will cover all the cracks to make it smooth my wife says its a pain in the rear when cleaning the floor to get all MY DIRT out of the cracks every day happy wife makes me a happy life thanks for all the info

Tell her those cracks are an asset, they mean you don't have to sweep nearly as often. The dirt falls into the cracks. Once the cracks are full then you vacuum them then start over.

If you do want to fill the cracks you can use a large syringe filled with epoxy and fill each crack with it then put on the final finish. I have seen it done and it looks nice.

coxy · August 17, 2016, 09:41:24 PM

never thought of that I told you I am dumber than a box of rocks when it comes to this kind of stuff ;D

Brucer · August 17, 2016, 10:23:14 PM

Epoxy doesn't dry -- it sets. Mix the two components together in the proper proportions and a chemical reaction takes place that causes it to harden. The bonus is that it takes the same amount of time for a thick layer to set as a thin layer.

The thing to watch out for is heat. The chemical reaction generates heat (which is what causes the stuff to set), and if you make it too thick, the heat can't dissipate fast enough. Read the label!

Some epoxies are designed to be painted on and are fairly thick. Others are designed to be poured into a mold or somehow restrained. They flow easily and tend to be self leveling. I used some to seal the surface of a paper press I made for Barb.