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Title: cordless chain saw
Post by: Doug Wis on September 25, 2018, 10:33:27 PM
   Bought one this summer. Just got done sawing some 16' white pine that have been laying too long. Don't know about other areas of the country, but here in nw wi the gravity is definitely get stronger, cause those 16' slabs sure were a lot heavier than they used to be. I would move the slab abit and slip a bit of edging under it  to keep from cutting into the log below .and grab the saw and make 2 8' slabs. much easier to handle. Also alot handier to  cut off that offending knot that sticks out . I found I was doing trimming and cutting that I wouldn't have done if I had to start the gas saw. If any of you less young guys have been thinking about one , I sure would recommend it. Not something I would want to log with, but I did make 2 8's out of a couple of 16's logs that were 12" 14" without much trouble.  Its a lynx from HF. Cost ,me about $225 with tax and an extra battery.
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: hopm on September 26, 2018, 01:28:25 AM
My dad is 78 and has had rotator cuff problems. Starting a saw was a big problem for him and very painful. We bought him the Dewalt battery saw. It has done more than I ever expected. He was laughing that it killed his breaks. With a gas saw he got a break when he had to refuel, but the battery last way longer than a tank of gas.
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: opticsguy on September 26, 2018, 03:27:52 AM
Purchased the Milwaukee Cordless Saw about 2-3 weeks ago.  Really really handy for quick odd jobs and also can cut up a lot of logs on one charge.  Does not replace a Gas saw for bigger jobs but the cordless can still do a lot of work and the first saw I now grab for easy and fast projects.  
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: Magicman on September 26, 2018, 07:44:17 AM
I bought a (refurbished) Ryobi 40v brushless chainsaw from Direct Tools and have been very surprised and pleased at what it will do.  I already had the string trimmer and hedge trimmer so the same batteries fit them all.
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: DMcCoy on September 26, 2018, 08:26:41 AM
I bought a lynx as well and have been really happy with it so far.  Surprising just how well it cuts. 
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: alan gage on September 26, 2018, 10:22:46 AM
Was helping a fried cut down a big oak the other day and he had a cordless dewalt that the least experienced guy was using to cut off all the small limbs. I was surprised at how well it did and how long the battery seemed to last. Only thing I didn't like was that the lack of noise might lead to a lack of respect. A cordless saw just doesn't sound as scary.

I didn't pay any attention but do they have a chain oiler?

Alan
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: Revival Sawmill on September 26, 2018, 10:45:28 AM
All the ones I've seen have chain oilers.  They concern me a bit, since they still have full torque at near no speed - if you've got any creep or don't take your finger off the trigger completely, they will do some damage... 
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: Southside on September 26, 2018, 10:48:10 AM
It's my understanding that chaps don't do nearly as well in protecting you against those either - maybe it's due to the torque range.  
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: Revival Sawmill on September 26, 2018, 10:52:52 AM
Plus, there's no red-hot muffler conveniently located at the front of the saw to cauterize your wounds...  ;)
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: alan gage on September 26, 2018, 11:20:54 AM
Just realized the humor in the threads title. We all own cordless chainsaws but apparently our brains have been trained to associate cordless to battery powered.

Alan
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: SawyerTed on September 26, 2018, 01:16:26 PM
Alan, you found a diplomatic way to say what I was thinking - "Aren't most chainsaws cordless?"  

Years ago I wanted a cordless electric drill/driver for Christmas.  My wife asked what I wanted and I said, "A cordless screwdriver."  She never understood.
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: alan gage on September 26, 2018, 02:53:56 PM
Quote from: SawyerTed on September 26, 2018, 01:16:26 PM

Years ago I wanted a cordless electric drill/driver for Christmas.  My wife asked what I wanted and I said, "A cordless screwdriver."  She never understood.
We've been using electric impact drivers and ratchets in the shop for years but we still tend to call them air guns and air ratchets. ::)
Alan
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: Southside on September 26, 2018, 03:32:36 PM
Quote from: alan gage on September 26, 2018, 11:20:54 AM
Just realized the humor in the threads title. We all own cordless chainsaws but apparently our brains have been trained to associate cordless to battery powered.

Alan
To be technical about it - not true - unless you have some sort of fancy alternative starting method to that gas saw, it has a pull cord.   :D
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: Doug Wis on September 26, 2018, 10:39:39 PM
    Alan you are right . Never even thought about it that way. Our minds are  trained now to associate  cordless to mean battery powered. duh
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: Ianab on September 27, 2018, 02:19:32 AM
Looking at it that way, Stihl make a cordless drill  ;D

BT 45 Wood Boring Drill - Gas Powered Wood Boring Drill | STIHL USA (https://www.stihlusa.com/products/augers-and-drills/wood-boring-drill/bt45wbd/)
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: sealark37 on September 27, 2018, 09:48:34 AM
Has anyone had a chance to try out the Husqvarna battery operated saw?  I looked at one at the farm store last week, but I am hesitant to lay out the cash without some reference.   Regards, Clark
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: tawilson on September 27, 2018, 10:16:36 AM
Quote from: sealark37 on September 27, 2018, 09:48:34 AM
Has anyone had a chance to try out the Husqvarna battery operated saw?  I looked at one at the farm store last week, but I am hesitant to lay out the cash without some reference.   Regards, Clark
Yes I have had one for a couple years and am happy with it. Also comes with a 2 year warranty.
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: Mountain_d on September 30, 2018, 12:53:00 PM
I have an inexpensive Mastercraft (Canadian Tire) 20 volt and find it handy around the sawmill. I cut long slabs in half also and trim boards that wane off to the proper length as they sit on the cant. I also cut my edgings into stickers with it. I do not use it in the winter so I use cheap canola oil instead of chain oil. That way I can use it during the deer hunt for butchering (split spine). I find the canola is cheaper than chain oil and likely good enough for the amount of heat generated on the chain of the battery saw. 
Mountain. 
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: ljmathias on October 07, 2018, 07:13:41 AM
I have the Stihl battery chain saw. Small and light enough I could use it when my torn rotator cuff was healing. Found it works great for small jobs. In fact, yesterday took down a 6" white oak that had died in the front yard- root rot?

Sliced off the limbs, made some fire wood and left about 6' of trunk to try to get some boards from. All in all, this saw works fine but battery life is short. It does have a chain oiler but the biggest problem is remembering to put oil in. With my gas powered saws, every fill up involves both gas and oil, but timing isn't quite right on battery recharge for oil refill. Oh, well, good and bad.

Speaking of battery life, anyone else have problems with Dewalt cordless batteries not lasting? I've got about 30 of them that won't recharge- just sit there in the charger with no light coming on. Finally bought some aftermarkets- hope they last longer than the Dewalt versions. In fact, despite having about 20 drills, drivers, saws and whatevers, I'm going to switch to a different brand- suggestions?

LJ
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: alan gage on October 07, 2018, 08:54:46 AM
I have a contractor friend with lots of Dewalt tools and I've never heard him complain about batteries. I know he has some old (6-7 years) batteries that don't hold a charge well anymore but he seems to be happy for the most part. Most of his are the larger 4-6 amp/hour batteries. 

I needed a couple Dewalt batteries a couple months ago and looked into aftermarket to save some money but saw too many bad reviews so bit the bullet and bought the Dewalts. 

Alan
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: Magicman on October 07, 2018, 09:18:49 AM
There is a long topic in the Chainsaw Board.
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: sealark37 on October 07, 2018, 09:28:37 AM
I purchased a Husqvarna battery powered saw last week.  The battery would not take a charge.  I called Customer Service, who put me in touch with a dealer who did warranty work.  Dealer told me it might be a while, as they had never worked on a battery saw.  It has been one week.   Regards, Clark
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: stihltoomany on October 07, 2018, 12:14:18 PM
I assume you have the nicad batteries and I have heard several complaints about them not lasting very long but they do make an adapter to use the new lithium ion batteries 20 volt on the older 18 volt tools that worked on nicads I have several of these lithium ion batteries and they seem to be holding up well
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: ljmathias on October 07, 2018, 04:17:10 PM
Sorry, should have specified- I do have the 20v lithium batteries and they're the ones not holding up. Even ones less than 2 years old. Bummer. I keep hoping someone will come up with a simple way to rejuvenate them, hence my workbench covered in 5 or 6 chargers and a couple dozen dead batteries.

I also bought 4 of the adapters to make the new 20v's work with the old 18v sockets. Work fine except for the main problem- not enough good batteries to go around.

My SIL has a Porter-Cable he got cheap and his batteries are holding up way better than mine. Anyone else try PC? Anyone else have good luck with an alternative brand?

Thanks all.

LJ
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: Magicman on October 07, 2018, 04:45:49 PM
I very seriously doubt that there will be any Li-Ion batteries "rejuvenated".  :-\
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: Percy on October 07, 2018, 06:05:21 PM
It's odd you are having problems with the dewalt lithium ion batteries.  I had nothing but problems with my old dewalt ni cads and was hesitant to get the lithium ion stuff as it is rather expensive. I bit the bullet and to my surprise,the dewalt lithium ion stuff has impressed the heck outta me. In your case, I guess sometimes life just ain't fair. 
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: lxskllr on October 07, 2018, 06:30:27 PM
Quote from: Southside logger on September 26, 2018, 10:48:10 AM
It's my understanding that chaps don't do nearly as well in protecting you against those either - maybe it's due to the torque range.  
I've heard that. Found this video on youtube...
Electric Chainsaw vs Chaps - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uZQZBALVTc)
As always, YMMV. Like kitties, it's best to stay away from the sharp parts, and don't tempt the fates.
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: Dave Shepard on October 07, 2018, 08:49:47 PM
This is most, but not all, of my Milwaukee batteries and chargers. Some are from 2010. I'm all Milwaukee, and no regrets.


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Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: stihltoomany on October 07, 2018, 09:11:27 PM
Sorry to hear that you are having trouble with the 20 volt lithium ion I am quite heavily invested in DeWalt 20 volt lithium ion batteries and tools at the moment although I bought a Hitachi 18 volt set lithium ion batteries when they very first come out I believe that was 5  to  8  years ago years ago and they are still working great but I do not use them the way a contractor would use them
Title: Re: cordless chain saw
Post by: FloridaMike on October 07, 2018, 10:02:28 PM
I have the Dewalt 60V chainsaw and already had 6 of the 20v/60v flex batteries (for 7 1/4" circular saw and weed-wacker).  It will never replace my gas saws for falling trees or major work, but for small jobs and random cuts, I have been very impressed.  Batteries are about 3 years old, with no problems.  Also Wife loves it (she hates pulling a cord).... and so far hasn't found a way to break it...yet.