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Lawg Dawg

Quote from: POSTON WIDEHEAD on July 15, 2018, 05:32:29 PM
I wonder how it would do if you charred a Pine post then put it in the ground?  ::)
It will rot! :D don't ask me how I know :D
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Sugi is the Japanese name for what we call Japanese Cedar. Like most "cedars" it's a light but quite durable wood. It makes sense the charring the outside of that would make it even more durable. 

Pine? There is only so much you can do with that
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PA_Walnut

So, to satisfy my curiosity, tried some today with oak and poplar. Love the look.
I have a ceiling I am doing in Poplar and will definitely use this to give it some character.

The quarter sawn oak looks awesome too.

It's: pin oak, quarter sawn red, and poplar, in order.



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Lawg Dawg

Quote from: PA_Walnut on July 15, 2018, 08:52:54 PM
So, to satisfy my curiosity, tried some today with oak and poplar. Love the look.
I have a ceiling I am doing in Poplar and will definitely use this to give it some character.

The quarter sawn oak looks awesome too.

It's: pin oak, quarter sawn red, and poplar, in order.




Do you sell alot of that quarter sawn red oak in your area?  I'm supposed to be getting some 24" to 60" red oak logs in soon. Thinking about slabbing some and quarter sawing some.  That wood looks really nice burnt up like that! :) Did you wire brush it some after the burn?
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That qs oak looks great.

I wonder how it would work to do a cabin floor like that. ???
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POSTON WIDEHEAD

I'm gonna slip down to Georgia and scorch some of Ganny's QS slabs.
He'll love me for it. 😂😂😂
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Posthole fire up your torch and burn that resin hard....
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PA_Walnut

Quote from: Lawg Dawg on July 15, 2018, 09:30:21 PMDo you sell alot of that quarter sawn red oak in your area?  I'm supposed to be getting some 24" to 60" red oak logs in soon. Thinking about slabbing some and quarter sawing some.  That wood looks really nice burnt up like that!  Did you wire brush it some after the burn?


I agree...that Shou Sugi Ban quarter sawn looks great. No brushing or fussing...just have a big "weed burner" propane torch and hit it for about 10-15 seconds. I like the look, for what I'm doing, and it's fast/easy and low/no VOC's. :D

As for salability of quarter sawn vs. slabs, it always seems to be a more valuable commodity and easier to handle/dry/sell. It also requires a lot more work. If you haven't quartered yet, look up Yellow's Reverse Roll Quartersawn methods (YRRQS). I sawed on SAT and I think out of about 600 bf of quarter sawn, <6 boards didn't have excellent rays. Good luck!



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If I get time this week I'm going to toast some white pine and see how it does.
I think it will sell in my area.
There is a lot of CoCo butters around :)
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WDH

PAW,

The boot print on the poplar adds some rustic character ;D.

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PA_Walnut

Quote from: WDH on July 16, 2018, 07:14:03 AMThe boot print on the poplar adds some rustic character .


That is a VERY sore subject! When we are handling/stickering lumber I have told me kids (and wife) time and time and time again, not to do that.
Well, I had my test boards on the ground, my 14yr old son come meandering around, interested in the torch of course, and just could NOT keep his hoofs off the material. I keep bourbon in my mill shed, just for these occasions! :-\
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Satamax

Guys, any idea on how those are burned?  ;D





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YellowHammer

I've been following this OGCWP (Old Goat Charred Wood Product) topic with interest as I'm always trying to learn new things, and my results are mixed at best.  From reading all the posts I'm still not sure I have this worked out but I figured I'd just give it a try.  Maybe you folks can spot where I messed up.

Step 1.  Get some pine.  So I pulled a pallet of pine and moved it outside.





Step 2.  As per PAW, pour some bourbon on top of the wood. Okayyyyy, seems like a waste of good drinking whiskey, but a few bottles of JD Old No. 7 poured on top of the pallet of pine pretty much soaked the wood.

Quote from: PA_Walnut on July 16, 2018, 07:33:07 AMI keep bourbon in my mill shed, just for these occasions.




Step 3.  According to Poston, the whole key to this is using a weed torch. Although he probably has found a few hidden in his logs from the local prison, I didn't have one, so I got the guys at the local mobile home park to help me out.  I waved a few bags of potato chips in front of them, and they eased down my way with their 'Weed Burner."




Step 4.  As per WDH's suggestion, I needed to stand on the bourbon soaked pallet of wood to make sure I have sufficient boot prints to add extra character.

Quote from: WDH on July 16, 2018, 07:14:03 AMThe boot print on the poplar adds some rustic character.
So I put on my best pair of work boots and climbed on the alcohol soaked pile of wood.  I noticed I had accidentally spilled some alcohol on my boots,  what a shame, it's for drinking not spillin.  I'm sure glad alcohol doesn't burn or I might have caught fire.  





Step 5.  Then, according to Southside's instructions, I started the process of "charring" the wood.  I think this may be where I had some issues.  I had to get off the pile of wood when my boots started getting hot.  I don't think I got the timing of this step correct, I need more practice.  

Quote from: Southside logger on July 15, 2018, 11:27:20 PM
Fire up your torch and burn that resin hard.




Step 6. Process complete.  A short time after the fire department left, I was able to inspect the quality of the results.  I think the colors and end product turned out OK, but the usable yield was a little lower than I expected.   Not sure if this will be a money maker for me but I'll ponder it over a few swallows of the Old No. 7 that I had left over.






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nativewolf

on a serious note ( :D) I believe there was a thread about distressing furniture by charing. I picked up a whole pickup truck load of new distressed oak flooring that had been charred on purpose.  
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The end results will be much better if you stack the lumber in your aluminum framed utility trailer.
 

 
You must take care and not have said lumber stacked too close to your building.


 
If you are not careful you will loose the whole thing and have to start the process all over again.

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PA_Walnut

Quote from: YellowHammer on July 16, 2018, 12:48:38 PMStep 5.  Then according to Southside's instructions, I started the process of "charring" the wood.  I think this may be where I had some issues.  I had to get off the pile of wood when my boots started getting hot.


That is some right-funny stuff right there! However, I can tell you that it doesn't fit Zippo's image...they are going for a softer/more modern feel. No pyro, no WWII, and no smoking. LOL! :D(I do work for them).
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Yellohammer, you were trying to play the Jane of Arc game?  ;D
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WDH

Robert, you got it backwards.  You have to put the bourbon on the bottom of the boot, not the top.  You will have to try it again. 
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PA_Walnut

Bourbon, big torches, stacks of wood...would could POSSIBLY go wrong? I'm in.  ;D 8)
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WoodMizer KD250 Kiln
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POSTON WIDEHEAD

I started a simple thread and before long we'll be investigated....😂😂😂
As soon as the smoke clears. 😂
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