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Started by CCC4, January 11, 2013, 07:21:05 PM

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CCC4

Anybody having trouble with the double air filter on the Stihl 362? I'm kind of upset with this system, Twice now I have cleaned the airfilter and found splinters had penetrated the outer filter...so many that it was ridiculous! They get stuck half way through the filter, looks like a porcupine. When the 2nd filter comes off there is tale tell sign that there is a problem with sealing and dust has gone into the intake. I clean this filter routinely, and always check how everything seals. I really don't understand why they had to make the switch to this filter. Why not put the K&N style filters like a 44 I had several years ago? Surely I am not the only person who is having this problem. Our Stihl dealer in town just sells the saws...not really any experts, plus I usually work past closing so I can't  call them. Thanks in advance for any insight to my problem. Heck, who knows...maybe I got a factory defective air filter???

CCC4

Well I'm glad it's just me...must be a totally isolated event.  ::)

Timbercruiser

I will check mine and let you know . Good question anyway

snowstorm

havent had any trouble with mine. i just bought a 261 i like that what a screamer

lumberjack48

If i had dust in the intake i would be very concerned, which you are. I know i couldn't run it knowing dirt was getting into the engine though the filter until i found the problem.
Third generation logger, owner operator, 30 yrs felling experience with pole skidder. I got my neck broke back in 89, left me a quad. The wife kept the job going up to 96.

Timbercruiser

hey I checked my very new 362 stihl And your right it getting dust through the filter. Im not impressed one bit thats supposed to be a pro platform saw and with dust and dirt getting past is not good. I havent even wore one chain out and can see fine dust in the carb. Im going to get ahold of stihl ASAP

Slab Slicer

I just got a 362 a few weeks ago. Haven't actually put it to a log just yet, but I'll be watching for this issue. Hopefully not. I'll keep checking back to see if theirs any more info.
2016 LT35HDG25, Kubota L2501 w/ FEL, Kubota BX1500 w/FEL and custom skidding rig, Stihl MS 500i, Stihl MS362-25", Stihl MS250-20", Stihl MS192-18",  2001 F250 SD 7.3, GMC Sierra Dually 6.0 gasser, Peaqua 16" 10K trailer, Sur-Trac 12' Dump Trailer 10K
Chuck

CCC4

Thank you fellas for your replies! I will take a few pics 2moro and post them. I wish someone from Stihl would respond to this thread. The pics are going to show a failed air filter system and I wouldn't doubt somesort of a re-call is in need to fix the problem. The hood on the 362 is going to make it nearly impossible to just swap out the 361 air filter...I don't know really what can be done. Thanks again for your replies...be sure to check your intakes.

beenthere

Your Stihl dealer is your best bet for some attention from Stihl. He/she has a regional rep.

Doubt any Stihl reps are poking around the internet on Forums looking for problems to solve. ;)

I don't get to my Stihl dealer often but this is a good excuse to stop by for a visit. I'll see what he says.
south central Wisconsin
It may be that my sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others

CCC4


snowstorm

mine has 2 air filters inner and an outer. the inner is clean along with inside of the carb

Slab Slicer

Digging this old one up. Was hoping there was an answer here. I'm in need of a new filter, and if there is something to replace this, and function better, it would be good to know.
2016 LT35HDG25, Kubota L2501 w/ FEL, Kubota BX1500 w/FEL and custom skidding rig, Stihl MS 500i, Stihl MS362-25", Stihl MS250-20", Stihl MS192-18",  2001 F250 SD 7.3, GMC Sierra Dually 6.0 gasser, Peaqua 16" 10K trailer, Sur-Trac 12' Dump Trailer 10K
Chuck

kcward

Did you find a solution?  I just bought a used MS362 non m-tronic and it has the old style filter.  The new ones come with the HD filter (round one).  I looked in to changing over to that and it is possible.  Just need a few more parts...the back plate etc.  The dealer said it would be about $60 to change it over.

Slab Slicer

I have not. Was waiting to hear something here.
2016 LT35HDG25, Kubota L2501 w/ FEL, Kubota BX1500 w/FEL and custom skidding rig, Stihl MS 500i, Stihl MS362-25", Stihl MS250-20", Stihl MS192-18",  2001 F250 SD 7.3, GMC Sierra Dually 6.0 gasser, Peaqua 16" 10K trailer, Sur-Trac 12' Dump Trailer 10K
Chuck

Woodcutter_Mo

 We have an early 362 that does them same. The filter gets porcupined with splinters and I have seen alot of dust and debris get past the filter on this saw as well. To be honest, I'm not sure how it's lasted this long with this filter setup.
-WoodMizer LT25
-592XP full wrap, 372XP, 550XP, 455 Rancher, RedMax GZ3500T
-Fixer-uppers/projects:
024AV, MS260, MS361, MS460, Shindaiwa 488, 394XPG

snowstorm


joe_indi

CCC4
I would like to see the photo you mentioned

Woodcutter_Mo

 Since the warranty is over with this saw I plan to make a few slight adjustments on this ms362 and I may get the HD filter setup to start with. Glad I seen this thread as I always wondered if the newer filter could be adapted to the early ms362's.  :)

Here's what I mean about this saw getting dust past the filter.


-WoodMizer LT25
-592XP full wrap, 372XP, 550XP, 455 Rancher, RedMax GZ3500T
-Fixer-uppers/projects:
024AV, MS260, MS361, MS460, Shindaiwa 488, 394XPG

Slab Slicer

Would like to see how this update/mod is done, and what you need.
2016 LT35HDG25, Kubota L2501 w/ FEL, Kubota BX1500 w/FEL and custom skidding rig, Stihl MS 500i, Stihl MS362-25", Stihl MS250-20", Stihl MS192-18",  2001 F250 SD 7.3, GMC Sierra Dually 6.0 gasser, Peaqua 16" 10K trailer, Sur-Trac 12' Dump Trailer 10K
Chuck

joe_indi

Woodcutter_Mo
I'd like to see a picture of your filter

Woodcutter_Mo

Quote from: joe_indi on August 12, 2017, 11:46:46 AM
Woodcutter_Mo
I'd like to see a picture of your filter

Here you go. Looks like the fine stuff gets past the sealing surfaces of the main filter and the big stuff inside the pre filter weaves through but I could be wrong.


img]https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/35112/IMG_20170812_151828827.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1502570636[/img]



-WoodMizer LT25
-592XP full wrap, 372XP, 550XP, 455 Rancher, RedMax GZ3500T
-Fixer-uppers/projects:
024AV, MS260, MS361, MS460, Shindaiwa 488, 394XPG

Slab Slicer

2016 LT35HDG25, Kubota L2501 w/ FEL, Kubota BX1500 w/FEL and custom skidding rig, Stihl MS 500i, Stihl MS362-25", Stihl MS250-20", Stihl MS192-18",  2001 F250 SD 7.3, GMC Sierra Dually 6.0 gasser, Peaqua 16" 10K trailer, Sur-Trac 12' Dump Trailer 10K
Chuck

joe_indi

I think a block of sponge/foam between the filter and the filter cover might solve the problem. Because from the pictures it would seem the saw dust is going in through the edge of the filter and not through the filter, reason being the filter seat is not pressed into its seat.

Woodcutter_Mo

Quote from: joe_indi on August 13, 2017, 12:36:19 AM
I think a block of sponge/foam between the filter and the filter cover might solve the problem. Because from the pictures it would seem the saw dust is going in through the edge of the filter and not through the filter, reason being the filter seat is not pressed into its seat.

That's a good idea, that may help keep the filter pressed against the base. From what I can tell, it looks like the filter leak would be towards the bottom as the top of the filter clips on tight.
-WoodMizer LT25
-592XP full wrap, 372XP, 550XP, 455 Rancher, RedMax GZ3500T
-Fixer-uppers/projects:
024AV, MS260, MS361, MS460, Shindaiwa 488, 394XPG

4x4American

I'm go check myn..I know that the filters themselves can be a bugger to out back on.  They arent cheap either try buyin a new one better hold onto your sneakers
Boy, back in my day..

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