Sharpening Cost

Beavertooth · July 11, 2012, 10:46:26 PM

If you send your blades back to WM to sharpen you will come out cheaper to not be on their blade replacement program if you can afford to purchase 60 blades at a time when you buy blades. 15% discount an free shipping. If you cant afford to buy that many at a time you maybe can find someone else to go in with you.

ely · July 12, 2012, 09:09:12 AM

those CBN wheels that i found are only 3 inch dia. is that what you guys are using? i think the ones i use on my grinder are 5 or 6 inch dia.

tommone · July 14, 2012, 09:23:51 AM

Quote from: ely on July 12, 2012, 09:09:12 AM
those CBN wheels that i found are only 3 inch dia. is that what you guys are using? i think the ones i use on my grinder are 5 or 6 inch dia.

They are both 5 inch one 3/8 inch wide for Cooks and one 1/4 inch wide for Woodmizer drag grinder.

woodhick · July 15, 2012, 09:34:10 PM

I have mine done by another Woodmizer owner who specializes in sharpening more than milling. cost is $5 each and he does an excellent job.

bandmiller2 · July 17, 2012, 07:41:18 AM

Woodhick,you have a good deal there at $5 a pop.Setting and sharpening even with good machinery is boreing and gets old fast.I just completed 30 long bands and am glad to see the heels of them.I will just sharpen for $6 but setting and sharpening $7.50 just not worth it for much less.If you hump sharpened bands all day, it looks like you fought with a puddy cat and lost. Frank C.

hamish · July 17, 2012, 07:35:52 PM

Just dug up a few invoices at work for the sharpening service in this area, to set a re-sharpen a (yes one band) $17 + tax(13%) but no shipping charges as they pick up throughout the region...........

Brand new woodmizer double hard can be had for $22.20 (never tried one but would like to) Lenox Woodmaster C's $18.36 etc........plus shipping and taxes of course.

Seems my sharpener I bought used for $400 last year has already paid or itself.......feels good.

woodhick · July 17, 2012, 10:27:31 PM

Yeah bandmiller I cant or wont sharpen them for $5 each. This guy prefers to sharpen bands than to saw as his business. He is using woodmizer equipment with CBN wheels and a Cooks dual tooth setter. Bands are just as good if not better than the ones I was getting back from woodmizer and he will sharpen a band that has few teeth missing or wore down but he marks it so you can use it for "iffy" logs for reclaimed stuff. Great guy to deal with.

bandmiller2 · July 18, 2012, 06:56:24 AM

Theirs nothing better than cutting with a freash, vicous sharp band, they just make an evil sounding hiss as they cut.This hot weather I'll cut two or three logs then go home and put the band on the sharpener just barely kissing the teeth. Frank C.

xlogger · October 27, 2012, 05:56:19 AM

Backwoods Sawyer or anyone here, did you order the CBN wheels from Ireland or get them here in US? I have a Wright Machine grinder from TK and was looking at getting new wheels for it. The wheel on it is 6" X3/16X5/8. I got it used and was also wondering if he changed the wheel or is this the correct size for the grinder. My wheel is down to about 5 1/2 now. I know I can call TK and get new wheels was looking at what you said about the CBN wheels. I can seem to find any that size here in town. Ricky

ladylake · October 27, 2012, 06:56:51 AM

How many blades do a CBN wheel sharpen before before wearing out. Steve

tommone · October 27, 2012, 03:25:40 PM

Ladylake it varies a lot depending on the sharpener type, wet or dry, no of times going round the blade etc but generally you should get 200 to 400 . If you need more info can you PM me? tom

Solomon · October 27, 2012, 05:30:40 PM

I have an old WM band blade shapener its not the CBN SHARPENER. Also have the single tooth setter. Have sharpened only a couple blades that are inch and a half x 7/8 x 229 inches. It takes two passes. They seem to cut cleaner than new and last just a bit longer. Don't have a clue why.
When I dammage a blade , if possable and it normally is I cut the blade to 150 inches have them welded. I have a half dozen Im going to sharpen and try them out on my Band saw in the shop.
Just got the parts from WM to get the sharpener running right. Have to get it set up level and all that.

terrifictimbersllc · October 27, 2012, 06:11:43 PM

Quote from: ladylake on October 27, 2012, 06:56:51 AM

How many blades do a CBN wheel sharpen before before wearing out. Steve

I've used two different CBN wheels (woodmizer) about 225 bands each so far no sign of wearing out, although I don't know what happens when one wears out.

petefrom bearswamp · October 28, 2012, 09:41:48 AM

showing my ignorance, do the cbn wheels come all profiled and if not how do you achieve the proper profile?
i have an older WM sharpener and setter and am not fond of sharpening and setting but am too cheap to send them to WM.
Pete

tommone · October 28, 2012, 10:56:37 AM

Quote from: terrifictimbersllc on October 27, 2012, 06:11:43 PM
Quote from: ladylake on October 27, 2012, 06:56:51 AM

How many blades do a CBN wheel sharpen before before wearing out. Steve
I've used two different CBN wheels (woodmizer) about 225 bands each so far no sign of wearing out, although I don't know what happens when one wears out.

The CBN wheels made by woodmizer are a single layer of CBN particles electroplated on to a steel preform. The wheel location first to wear out is usually the small radius which contacts the start of the gullet . It will become a different shade as it approaches the end of its life from the rest of the wheel so keep an eye out for this . It wont happen overnight so dont panic.Tom

ladylake · October 28, 2012, 12:57:11 PM

Tom Are the wheel you sell different than the WM ones, longer life? Steve

tommone · October 28, 2012, 02:11:15 PM

Steve I'll have to PM you as we are not sponsors and it would be unethical to blatantly advertise at the expense of those who are, Tom

PC-Urban-Sawyer · October 28, 2012, 02:53:16 PM

Quote from: tommone on October 28, 2012, 02:11:15 PM
Steve I'll have to PM you as we are not sponsors and it would be unethical to blatantly advertise at the expense of those who are, Tom

Well said. Spoken like a true gentleman.

Perhaps you should join the ranks of sponsors of this fine forum.

Again, I appreciate your high standard of conduct that this post displayed.

Herb

tommone · October 28, 2012, 04:25:35 PM

Thanks for complement Herb, integrity is something I value highly. We'll soon be one of the shameless commerce links and maybe sponsorship will follow, Tom.

WH_Conley · October 28, 2012, 06:00:18 PM

Hurry up, I am interested in one of those stones too. :D

Magicman · October 28, 2012, 07:38:24 PM

WM Resharp will not change the profile/pitch of a blade because it will abnormally wear the sharpening wheel/stone.

In other words, if it is a 10° blade it stays a 10° blade. They will not change it to a 7°, etc. With that in mind, if you are changing the tooth angle on blades, you could be reducing your wheel/stone's life.

tommone · October 29, 2012, 09:30:34 AM

Very true Magicman, with the Woodmizer CBN system you will need to use 10 degree wheels with 10 degree blades and so on. Using a 10 degree wheel with any other wheel angle will ruin the wheel and give a very unsatisfactory and incomplete grind.

davey duck · October 29, 2012, 10:29:36 AM

I send mine to Resharp /Northeast . $134.00 for 15 blades -clean,sharpen and set,saves me time and having to buy equipment.It also seems that the resharpened blades are sharper than new,I remember a thread on that subject about a year ago.

xlogger · October 29, 2012, 08:51:18 PM

So if I was changing a 10 degree band to a 4 degree I would need two different wheels if I wanted some to stay at 10?

Magicman · October 29, 2012, 10:54:17 PM

If you have 10° bands and want some 4° bands, then buy some 4° bands and the sharpening wheel to go with them. Don't think about using a CBN to convert one tooth pitch to another. Buy what you need and sharpen them with the proper stone/wheel.