Just a bunch of bull.

[LeeB]

Do any of you cattle folks have a clue as to what breed this feller may be? 

[dustyhat]

Looks Angus, Holstein,and tex longhorn. or maby a Heinz 57. 

[LeeB]

The guy I got his dam from was running pretty much herefords so I suspect he's a least part hereford. I thought maybe that and simmental? Or just a mut. He's been a good bull but it's time for some new blood and I've bought a registered hereford bull. Hate to see it but he has to go. His mama has simular markings to him and I have no idea how old she is. He's 7 and she has to be probably 10 or better but she keeps dropping calve so she gets kept around. I figure she won't produce too much longer and then it's hamburger time. If I can't get a decent offer for him he'll go the same route. 

[dustyhat]

We usually keep a cow as long as shes dropping calfs and has teeth. he is a good built animal though.

[dustyhat]

Seriously there is a butler longhorn that throws that color alot. 

[LeeB]

The guy I'm buying my new bull from thought he may have some longhorn in him.

[sandhills]

I would say definitely has some hereford in him and probably a little longhorn as well, just guessing.  I'd agree he's a nice built bull though.

[sandhills]

Looked back, definitely has a longhorn body but Hereford head, without the white face?  Don't ask me I only raise cattle and work at a salebarn for a living  :D :D.  What's the new bull going to be?

[chevytaHOE5674]

Usually (but not always) hereford X cattle retain some or all of the white face, and often white lower legs/feet. Looking at his face he looks a bit like my purebred simmentinal bull, but he has the coloring of a longhorn or short horn. Probably no purebred parents or grandparents, bred from a long line of muts is my guess.

[jwade]

mutt or not a nice put together bull.

[sandhills]

I think chevy nailed it, but I'm still sticking with longhorn over shorthorn?  ;)  I can change my mind pretty quick with a simple answer  :D

[LeeB]

New bull will be a registered hereford. 

I kinda though maybe some semi in him too. But I really don't know, hence asking on here. Guess he could be about almost any mix. Hard for you guys to tell from a picture. 

@sandhills Any thoughts on what he might bring at the sale barn?

[sandhills]

mutt or not a nice put together bull.

I wouldn't say that but hard to judge by one picture, I will say I don't care much for his front end though, that's why dad picks our bulls I guess  :D.

[Jeff]

This topic reminds me of one of my favorite old movies.  The Rare Breed with Jimmy Stewart, Maureen O'Hara and Brian Keith.

The Rare Breed Western 1966 James Stewart, Maureen O'Hara on Vimeo

[LeeB]

I've got a bunch of mutts. Trying to improve with the new bull and will buy some more hereford heifers later on. I know the money is better for black cows but I like the looks of herefords. 

 

 

[sandhills]

The last weigh up we sold weighed 2260 and brought 76-77 cents a pound last Wednesday my boss thought, the weigh up markets been a little off lately but he's in good shape and that helps A LOT.  I could have bought a good angus bull Saturday that weighed 1350 (a yearling) for probably less than 1.00, he didn't have the greatest numbers but had the bloodlines, couldn't see who I was bidding against and quit, it's hard to bid from out back when you're working  :D.

[51cub]

I imagine you guys know better than me, but my first guess as soon as I saw the picture was Hereford and Chianina

[garyfg]

Got to watch them hereford cows with that white face. I had a few that got cancer eye.

[WV Sawmiller]

   Looks like American shorthorn my neighbor up the road raises. At least mixed with some.

[LeeB]

He never had any horns until this last year or so and then the buds popped out.

[chevytaHOE5674]

Head looks simentenial in build to me also the curly hair on the neck and face. From the head back he looks longhorns (well at least what I know of longhorns..... haha).

[Roxie]

Dude has a head like a buffalo.  :D 

[log cutter]

 1/2 Longhorn, 1/4 Hereford and 1/4 Red Angus. Just my guess but he looks allot like my cows that were that combination. Best cows I've every owned.

[sandhills]

Dude has a head like a buffalo.  :D

:D :D No, trust me Roxie, we've sold beefalos before and this dude looks way prettier  ;D.
garyfg I agree, we see a lot of them, some owners need to be shot.

I'm still going with chevy's Sim/longhorn cross, that's my story and I'm sticking to it  .

Lee put that new bull on some nice black cows and I'll come buy the f1 cross heifers  ;D.

[TKehl]

Can't give any more insight on bred than what's above.
 
However, you mention his momma being 10 years old.  I've been reading that heifers from older cows can be the best bang for the buck.  As on older cow (that keeps producing) will spend proportionately more time raising kids than raising her up to breeding age, the cost of raising her up is spread across more calves.  As such, all else equal, if you have longevity genes in your cattle, they will be more profitable as long as they keep producing. 
 
In other words, I'd keep her around as long as she has teeth and raises calves.   ;)

[chevytaHOE5674]

In other words, I'd keep her around as long as she has teeth and raises calves.   ;)

My philosophy is to dump them before they get too old and they start to go downhill. While they can still eat and raise a calf they are worth decent money to sell as there are always people being buying older bred cows. Once they start going downhill they are only worth their weight in hamburger.
10 to 12 years is the oldest cows I keep UP here in our climate. An old bred cow and a harsh winter and she can go from good condition to skin and bones in no time flat.

[Chuck White]

If I had to guess, I would guess that it is a Hereford crossed with a Buffalo!

[Southside]

Personally I prefer mutts, especially F1's, but I like them smaller than what the lots prefer these days, they do a lot better on the grass.  

[Logger RK]

After watching Rawhide,I'd say Longhorn & Herford.

[coxy]

with the curly hair on his head i was thinking he may have highlander in him  but what do i know about beef  just its good to eat  :D

[LeeB]

Checked local slaughter prices. Guess he's worth about $16-1800. Hate to have to see him go that way but I guess it is what it is. It will pay for the new bull anyway. 

[JB Griffin]

I also say he has some sim and longhorn in him. My first though was shorthorn but he ain't got the tick that they do.

As to the mane ( curly hair on head and shoulders) bulls are supposed to have that, but it has been bred out some some in recent years. Some more than others. 

From what I heard the beefmaster breed was bred up by taking the highest performing animals in the and crossing them and on and on. Didn't care what color they were, just wanted performance. 

[starmac]

I lean towards the simmental over the hereford too. It just doesn't take a whole lot of hereford blood to throw a white face.

[Roxie]

It can be hard to send a critter to slaughter, but I always got some comfort from the fact that while we had them, they lived a good life.  Your dude looks like he has been very well fed and is content.  Just remember him in days of sunshine and grass. 

[LeeB]

He's been well fed. There's no doubt about that. Our cows feed us so we feed them well. He's no pet by any means but after raising him from the get go we've gotten somewhat attached. Don't know if I'll sell him as slaughter or have him butchered for our own use. To date we've only raised cattle for our own consumption and I have no problem eating them. Now that my career is winding down I'm looking to start selling a few to supplement income, hence the new bull.

[starmac]

Just raising them for your own consumption, how many cows are you running, I would think AI would be much cheaper than keeping a bull up just to raise meat.

[sandhills]

I agree, but...    AI (at least around here) if you get a 70% conception rate you're doing good, it still takes a clean up bull though.  Some folks lease bulls, run them on the cows for 60 days then they go back.  As Starmac said it would all amount to how many cows you have, I always said the cow/calf deal would be great if you didn't have to have the bulls around, they just fight and tear all the fences down, of course only the good ones  :.  Oh, and get hurt in the process.

[starmac]

I had a friend that had a maintained a herd of long horn bulls, he would lease them to ranchers all over to breed their heifers with. It was a fairly good gig.