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Title: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 10, 2019, 05:09:21 PM
Thought I would get a little wood in before the 4-8 inches of snow that suppose to be coming in tommorow. Me and Mollie dog went over on the government land and cut this little jag. I buy a permit from the forestry dept that allows you to cut 4 cord of the dead stuff. Cost 20.00. This is all dead red oak.
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Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 10, 2019, 05:12:08 PM
 
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Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: samandothers on January 10, 2019, 05:55:08 PM
Nice afternoon outing with the log dog! 
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Southside on January 10, 2019, 06:04:51 PM
Do they let you get that from over in Lost in the Woods or another piece of govt ground?
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: thecfarm on January 10, 2019, 06:16:05 PM
Looks like Mollie is having a good time!!
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 10, 2019, 07:21:20 PM
 
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  Split and stacked in the dry. 
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Pine Ridge on January 10, 2019, 08:10:29 PM
Kwill I had to check out your profile to see where you are located, the woods in the pictures look like so many of the government roads and ridge tops here close to where I live, I knew you had to be in missouri !!! Forecasting 1to 4 inches for us, you must be close to Rolla.
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 10, 2019, 10:42:32 PM
Quote from: Pine Ridge on January 10, 2019, 08:10:29 PM
Kwill I had to check out your profile to see where you are located, the woods in the pictures look like so many of the government roads and ridge tops here close to where I live, I knew you had to be in missouri !!! Forecasting 1to 4 inches for us, you must be close to Rolla.
I'm south of rolla close to Houston mo.
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 10, 2019, 10:43:10 PM
Quote from: thecfarm on January 10, 2019, 06:16:05 PM
Looks like Mollie is having a good time!!
She's always ready to go.
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Allar on January 11, 2019, 02:44:09 AM
Wow it looks like spring over there. Nice load man.
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 11, 2019, 08:20:35 AM
We did have some days in the 60s last week 8)
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: hedgerow on January 11, 2019, 08:46:29 AM
We have had some nice days in east central Nebraska also but its been too muddy to work any wood without tearing up the pasture. The weather guesser's around here are all over the board from 1 to 6 inches of snow looks like more of it is staying south of us. You live in  a pretty part of the world. Years ago we used to go four wheeling down in your area lots of riding areas down there. 
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: TKehl on January 11, 2019, 10:14:55 AM
I hear you.  Still have a cord and a half under cover at the stove, but I still rolled a couple extra hand truck loads from another pile to better cover, "just cuz".  Probably an extra 3-4 days worth.

Took our last pig for now to the butcher yesterday afternoon.  ;D  Thought real hard about mounting the plow to the truck, but I'm supposed to work Saturday so settled for putting the blade on the tractor instead.  Expecting 6-8" here, but I always like to play with the WPC forecast and we could conceivable get 10-12.  

Going to be hoping for froze ground or some drying weather as probably still need to pull out about a cord each this winter for my house and my parents or we'll have to get into the emergency stash.
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 11, 2019, 12:09:22 PM
Tkehl they keep changing the snow amounts and moving it more north. I put my blade on the tractor just in case. Last night they said 6-9 here. This morning 1-4. We will see what they say on the noon news. Rain here now. I was going to a auction tomorrow at buffalo but I am sure they will cancel it.
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: TKehl on January 11, 2019, 03:44:21 PM
This is what I like to look at.

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/pwpf/wwd_percentiles.php?ftype=percentiles&fpd=72&ptype=snow (http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/pwpf/wwd_percentiles.php?ftype=percentiles&fpd=72&ptype=snow)

Looks like we've moved from the 6-8" into the 8-10" range.   :(  Wish I had my plow truck legal now.   ::)
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 11, 2019, 04:42:08 PM
According to that im in the 4 inch range
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: TKehl on January 14, 2019, 08:50:15 AM
We ended up with 12-13".  Wish I had gone out to cut more.  They're calling for this to melt off (mud), then rain switching to snow this weekend with single digit lows Sat. night...  Expecting 5" then.  

Did you make it to the auction?
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 14, 2019, 08:05:36 PM
They postponed the auction till wednesday. We ended up with rain that froze on the limbs. Kinda like a ice storm. It was worse south and wesf of me. Lost power for a few hours. Got my generator box all hooked up to my breaker box. At least now all i have to do is roll the generator out and hook a cord up. This weekend dont sound good.
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Farm29 on January 15, 2019, 09:06:09 AM
I am just north of the state capital and ended up with every bit of 10-12 in.  I enjoy a good snow but ready for some to melt off and freeze up the mud underneath. Luckly I had brought a 16' trailer of red oak rounds up before the snow that I got split up yesterday for the hardy. 
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 15, 2019, 10:38:46 AM
Quote from: Farm29 on January 15, 2019, 09:06:09 AM
I am just north of the state capital and ended up with every bit of 10-12 in.  I enjoy a good snow but ready for some to melt off and freeze up the mud underneath. Luckly I had brought a 16' trailer of red oak rounds up before the snow that I got split up yesterday for the hardy.
There is a good auction uo by you tommorow. I wanted to go but doubt i will make it
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: TKehl on January 15, 2019, 10:51:48 AM
Ice sucks.  I was in Springfield when they had their big ice storm in... around 2007.  

This storm was bad enough that we lost branches and a few trees from sticky snow.  Well, at least the goats have some food they can reach.   :D

I'm thinking real hard about laying down some Cedar branches, topping with a pile of cut wood from stuff I cut down a few years ago, then tarping the whole thing.  Can go back and get it when the ground freezes...

Sure looks like the next snow is going to stick around a few weeks...
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 15, 2019, 11:27:31 AM
Yeah a couple good days then really cold this weekend. I got somre green i need to get cut up and put in the shed. Im thinking about going and cutting some more dead stuff before this weekend if this ice ever melts off.
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Farm29 on January 15, 2019, 09:16:31 PM
Where is the auction at ?  It sounds like round two this weekend they seem to be all over the place with there predictions we will see when it gets here.  I'm ready for a freeze up theres a lot of dead trees to get out but has been to muddy to get to them 
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 15, 2019, 11:59:46 PM
Quote from: Farm29 on January 15, 2019, 09:16:31 PM
Where is the auction at ?  It sounds like round two this weekend they seem to be all over the place with there predictions we will see when it gets here.  I'm ready for a freeze up theres a lot of dead trees to get out but has been to muddy to get to them
its in columbia at the college.
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: TKehl on January 18, 2019, 09:33:34 AM
I for one am glad my local snow forecast is decreasing.  Talking a max of 2" now.  The old snow is melted down to around 3" left and should be less as we are supposed to get rain before snow.  Those are numbers I can work with!  

With the cold coming, the ground should freeze up even with a bit of insulation.  

Kwill, you must go to a lot of auctions.  How far do you go for them?  I try and keep tabs, but I don't see any that catch my interest until February.  
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 18, 2019, 09:51:58 PM
Depends on the auction and what they have. Sometimes i can buy sometimes i cant. They are calling for rain turning to snow and maybe a dusting and wind blowing 40mph. i dont think they know what its going to do. Suppose to be really cold though. Wont get to do much tommorow with the cold. Maybe piddle in the shop.
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: TKehl on January 22, 2019, 11:10:08 AM
We only got a skiff of new snow.  Nothing to really mention.  The good news about the cold is the ground froze up good.  Only needed 4x4 to cross the creek.

Pulled this load of ugly wood out Sunday afternoon.  Standing dead Elm that was in the fenceline (ingrown barb wire) and needed cut out anyway.  Branches crumpled up on themselves when it fell, so most of it stayed out of the snow.  The bark was barely hanging on, so what did get in the snow got the bark knocked off.   ;D

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Will probably run the trunk trough the sawmill.  It's too big to fit in the door, and I don't split Elm.   >:(   ;)
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 22, 2019, 11:34:17 AM
Thats all we got to. I need to get out and cut a little more. The wind is so bad today though.
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 22, 2019, 07:32:44 PM
Went down in the woods to !ook around today and found some dead standing red oak. Cut it and hauled it in before we got the rain this evening. Got it all cut up and in the shed.

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Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 22, 2019, 07:38:56 PM
 
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Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: doc henderson on January 22, 2019, 07:44:42 PM
Hey Kwill, that arch looks great, glad you got some wood to stay warm.  Looks like you could have started at the end of that long pole and worked your way up to the arch.  all looks good!
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: hedgerow on January 22, 2019, 07:57:30 PM
Quote from: Kwill on January 22, 2019, 07:38:56 PM

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Good looking rig. I would hate to think how many old Ford's and Ferguson's tractors years ago I bought repaired and or restored and sold to acreage folks. I just sold a Ford 961 a couple years ago a friend pickup at a auction cheap. 
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 22, 2019, 08:53:23 PM
Quote from: doc henderson on January 22, 2019, 07:44:42 PM
Hey Kwill, that arch looks great, glad you got some wood to stay warm.  Looks like you could have started at the end of that long pole and worked your way up to the arch.  all looks good!
Yeah that was a long one. I had one more that was like it. That arch gets used alot. I bring in firewood with it right next to the furnace shed. Cut it up right there and put in the shed
Also bring my cedars to the mill with it. Try to keep everything out of the mud.
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 23, 2019, 12:09:50 AM
Quote from: hedgerow on January 22, 2019, 07:57:30 PM
Quote from: Kwill on January 22, 2019, 07:38:56 PM

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Good looking rig. I would hate to think how many old Ford's and Ferguson's tractors years ago I bought repaired and or restored and sold to acreage folks. I just sold a Ford 961 a couple years ago a friend pickup at a auction cheap.
Quote from: hedgerow on January 22, 2019, 07:57:30 PM
Quote from: Kwill on January 22, 2019, 07:38:56 PM

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Good looking rig. I would hate to think how many old Ford's and Ferguson's tractors years ago I bought repaired and or restored and sold to acreage folks. I just sold a Ford 961 a couple years ago a friend pickup at a auction cheap. 
I got alot of flack for buying that 8n. Even more for putting a loader on it. They said you wont be able to steer it. Steers just fine. Its been a very handy little tractor. Even more now with the grapple i built. I was on another site that was abouut those old tractors and when i would post about what i wanted they would all say how dumb a idea in was to do that to a 8n. But when i bought that tractor it was what i could afford at the time and dont regret it at all. Id like to have another one without a loader just to put on the arch. Gets a little tight sometimes in the woods.
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: doc henderson on January 23, 2019, 02:04:20 PM
 
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I have posted this before.  Nice to keep the wood and chain out of the dirt.  also easier on your back!!
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 23, 2019, 04:13:36 PM
Yeah. I cut most of mine while its still on the arch most of the time. Glad i got that wood in yesterday. Got a pretty good rain overnight and its not to warm out today
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: hedgerow on January 24, 2019, 10:14:51 AM
Quote from: Kwill on January 23, 2019, 12:09:50 AM


I got alot of flack for buying that 8n. Even more for putting a loader on it. They said you wont be able to steer it. Steers just fine. Its been a very handy little tractor. Even more now with the grapple i built. I was on another site that was abouut those old tractors and when i would post about what i wanted they would all say how dumb a idea in was to do that to a 8n. But when i bought that tractor it was what i could afford at the time and dont regret it at all. Id like to have another one without a loader just to put on the arch. Gets a little tight sometimes in the woods. Quote Kwill

I was repairing and rebuilding them in the late 70's threw the 90's. Back then there wasn't all of the sub and compact diesels of today. I farmed and worked in town at night doing maintenance lots of people at the plant were building and moving to acreages. They would buy a MTD garden tractor at the farm store and a year later it was worn out and couldn't push snow. Back then I had a couple TO-20's out on the farm I had bought cheap that the rear rims and tires were shot from fluid. Repaired them and threw a quick paint job on. I sold them to a couple truck drivers at the plant that had moved to acreages. They liked them and soon after people were contacting me either looking for a tractor or had 8N that wouldn't run. I had learned to work on these when I was a kid in the 60's as we had a TO-20 and a 9N at a small truck stop my folks had we used them pushing snow and mowing. Back then we ran 8 volt battery's and a heavier starter drive so you could get them started. The next thing I knew the farm yard was full of ford, ferguson tractors and two row equipment. I got to farming too many acres and had too many cows and the next generation was moving to the country and they wanted a nicer tractor and loader and didn't mine payments. I sold out what I had. I still repair a few for friends or friends of friends. I did one this winter for a guy that bought it in 1978 when they moved to the acreage. His wife had bought him a new JD compact for his retirement a few years ago and the old 8N was not running any more. He didn't want to get rid of the tractor and wasn't finding anyone that wanted to repair it. He got to asking around and found me. I had retired from my town job a couple years ago so I have some time in the winter but didn't really want to work on it. I went over and looked at it. It needed a fair amount of work I threw out a number to repair and he didn't even think about it. He said when you have time come pick it up and repair and if you need money up front that's not problem. So I went the 20 miles and hauled it home he didn't own a trailer big enough to haul it. It was a fairly nice tractor was still on 6 volt. Was a late model 8N with side dist and had a all hyd loader with a front pump. So I got it running to see what we had low on compression clutch weak we already knew rear tires and wheels bad. Wow this tractor needs some serious money spent. I called him told him what I had found and what the cost would be to do engine and clutch and he said no problem I want the tractor fixed. So I repaired it and today he loves it and pretty much has parked the JD.    
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 25, 2019, 03:46:47 PM
 The big tree in the pic is dead and I'm trying to figure out how I can get it out. Not gonna be easy.
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Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: doc henderson on January 25, 2019, 03:49:44 PM
long rope or chain, if roots are rotted not too hard.  pull over from a long distance.
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: upnut on January 25, 2019, 04:45:16 PM
Just like the Johnny Cash song...."I got it one piece at a time...." Use the winch on your arch and a snatch block for those hard to reach places. Have fun and be safe, Scott B.
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 25, 2019, 07:41:45 PM
That one was a little more work for another day. I found another one even bigger that I don't have enough saw to cut. Ended up getting this one out that was easier to get to. Had to cut the black Jack in the trailer down so this one would fall. Cut the blackjack first.
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Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Magicman on January 25, 2019, 07:57:59 PM
I don't envy you burning that Black Jack.  :-X
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 25, 2019, 08:10:36 PM
Quote from: Magicman on January 25, 2019, 07:57:59 PM
I don't envy you burning that Black Jack.  :-X
Good stuff magicman. Pits off lots of heat. You definatly dont load the stove full of it 8)
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 27, 2019, 07:15:12 PM
Cutting some green wood for next year. This ole post oak hung up on me. Hooked the chain and 8n on it and got it down.

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 I have to get in some tight spots sometimes to get the arch over the logs.
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 All load up and heading to the house 8)
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: TKehl on January 27, 2019, 09:20:53 PM
Quote from: Kwill on January 25, 2019, 03:46:47 PM
The big tree in the pic is dead and I'm trying to figure out how I can get it out. Not gonna be easy.
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I believe I'd wait a couple more years for it to drop those upper branches.  They won't degrade much from it.  Otherwise those little trees around it could easily act as spring poles and throw a curve ball branch at you.  

Even after the limbs drop, I think I'd still hustle out.  Closest call I've had was an EASY Oak snag with a LEAN and NO limbs.  Decided to watch it fall at the stump like a BOSS.  Then I watched it break in half on a small limb of a neighbor tree with the top coming back at me.  :o  Never again!  Talk about humbling!

Otherwise weakening it with few cuts and winching it while hiding behind something big would be option two.  
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 27, 2019, 10:09:47 PM
Im not to worried about cutting it. Its just down a hill anf i dont think my tractor will easily get it out of there. I built a arch for my 4 wheeler im going to take in there and gwwt it out with. Ive had trees break before to and its not a fun deal.
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: thecfarm on January 28, 2019, 07:39:25 AM
Nice job you are doing. I betcha you reallly can't tell you have even been in the woods.
Looks like you have some nice ground to work on.
If I took a picture like that on my land,there would be at least one big rock,or a sharp knoll or a wet hole,sometimes all in one picture. ;D
Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on January 29, 2019, 08:29:00 PM
Gotta love it when the fall like this 8)

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  Dont really want to admit how i got as much cut off as i did. :)
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 arching it out
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  Backed up to the shed and cut it up then spilt and put it in the shed. Working on next years wood.
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Title: Re: Cut a little jag before the snow.
Post by: Kwill on February 02, 2019, 08:47:01 PM
Cutting next years wood and trting to get the shed full
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 Brought this in yesterday 
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  Got it split this morning
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  All split and in the shed. Got about one row and 3\4 of a row to go and if will be full.
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