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hardwood tree spacing
« on: March 15, 2018, 01:15:21 AM »
I have to clear a lot of pine in order to clean up some non native, very invasive growth. After doing so, I plan to replant hardwood (white/red oak, black walnut, black locust, hickory, etc.). What kind of spacing should I consider for more upright, tall, knot free growth?
Thanks, in advance, for any response.
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Re: hardwood tree spacing
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2018, 03:53:07 AM »
Have you got a lot of deer? Ideally I would begin the spacing 6' with plans to thin later as the trees develop. You want the crown to fill in as fast as possible so the lower limbs begin to die back and thin before they develop narrow crowns. But you want to be able to see in under for a ways after the limbs prune up. Then plan on thinning soon to release at least 3 sides of the crown. I planted a grove of yellow birch in 2002 and now the limbs are beginning to prune up nice and the stems are not skinny for the tree heights. You don't want tall skinny stems with small crown on top. They can bend down easy after thinning and ruin the tree. :)

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: hardwood tree spacing
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2018, 10:31:19 AM »
Yea, there are a lot of deer...I live in west central Alabama with the nearest town approx 15 mi away.

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Re: hardwood tree spacing
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2018, 09:48:20 AM »
I would use 5' tubex tubes and put them on a 15x15 spacing thats what we used for our Conservation planting.  

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Re: hardwood tree spacing
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2018, 10:00:16 AM »



I have about 50 acres of this young yellow birch stand to thin. I plan on doing the Precommercial thinning in two stages. The initial stage is a quick walkthrough with the spacing saw where the suppressed tiny stems will be slashed down where not much thought is involved in tree selection. This does two things, opens up the crowns allowing the crop tree crowns to expand and hopefully minimizes epicormic branching. Species I plan to save are Sugar Maple, Yellow Birch then Red maple and red spruce. This initial spacing ends up being between 4-6 feet.
The second walkthrough will involve a little more of a thought process when tree selection will be more important. I also plan on extracting a bit of small diameter firewood during the second thinning.

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Re: hardwood tree spacing
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2018, 10:18:20 AM »
That's what I do to, and did over 50 acres on mixed growth on my own land. I am about to do the second thinnings for firewood.  Anything will burn. Besides that, I usually thin between 70-100 acres a year on other land, but not all in hardwoods. Be cautious thinning yellow birch that has been left to grow more than 9 m. The stems can 'collapse' with the crown ending up touching the ground. Never seem to have much trouble with yellow birch suckering after a thinning as long as the stand is around 6m tall.

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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