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Offline Paul_H

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Gooseneck Trailer
« on: January 20, 2005, 06:29:16 PM »
I just did some swapping today for a 18 foot gooseneck trailer,and was wondering about the hitch setup.



Is the ball type (2 5/16 ) a very good setup compared to the 5th wheel type.I really haven't had too much to do with gooseneck trailers before and haven't paid much attention to what is what.

Is the ball style safe/strong?





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Re: Gooseneck Trailer
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2005, 06:34:40 PM »
I've been wondering about that myself for the last few months. I even found out there was a 2 7/8" ball out there. Never seen one of them before.

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Re: Gooseneck Trailer
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2005, 06:58:31 PM »
I like a gooseneck hitch. They are generally very secure if everything is done up properly. However, the one you have there is not a standard gooseneck hitch. That look's like a home-made rig made from an old mobile home hitch. It probably works ok, but I wouldn't trust it with too much weight, or in rough conditions.  The coupler there was intended to use on a tag or "bumper-pull" type of trailer.

A standard Gooseneck is essentially a heavy pipe, just a hair bigger than the ball. It slip's down over the ball, and has a hole where a pin slips in under the ball, through the skinny part, so it can't slip off.

northern tool Note:Please read the Forestry Forum's postion on this company offers a gooseneck coupler if you're interested in upgrading.  www.northerntools.com

Also, the ball should be mounted to a plate bolted directly to the truck frame. Properly installed, it ain't going anywhere!

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Re: Gooseneck Trailer
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2005, 07:23:19 PM »
My goose neck  has 3" balls. ;D
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Re: Gooseneck Trailer
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2005, 07:39:35 PM »
Thanks DanG for the info and especially for the welcome! I've been catching up on all the posts and trying to get back into the swing of things here.

I had a look at the link you posted and like the looks of that hitch at northern tool Note:Please read the Forestry Forum's postion on this company a lot more than the haywire setup that is on there now.It looks like someone has taken a torch and cut 12" off and welded it out in front and gussetted the hitch to raise it up for a flat deck.
I would hate to stop quick and have the hitch and gooseneck come flying through the back window ???
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Re: Gooseneck Trailer
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2005, 07:49:00 PM »
  The advantage of the ball set-up over the fifth wheel plate type is when youre traveling over rough ground the ball type hitch will allow trailer and truck to follow different contours of the ground.   I have personnally seen a flatbed fifth wheel set-up twist the frame and bed of a truck up really bad.  If youre traveling on the road all the time go with the fifth wheel type of hitch found on most camper.  If youre going to be off the road any at all go with the ball type.  Also I agree with DanG the type of hitchin youre pictures is for a tag a long trailer not a gosseneck.  I would change to the style he mentioned. :)
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Re: Gooseneck Trailer
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2005, 11:36:13 PM »
Maybe it's my eyes, but I don't see the safety chains on your hitch set up either.  Cowboy Bob has a 24' Eby Gooseneck that he uses to haul livestock.  It works great and he is off the road in muddy fields as much as he's on the road and we haven't lost the trailer yet!   :)  Last year, he was stopped at a red light and the driver behind him fell asleep at the wheel.  Slammed into the trailer doing about 45 mph.  It demolished Bob's trailer and the other guy's car, but the hitch held even though it bent the gooseneck part.  Thankfully, no cattle were involved.   :o
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Re: Gooseneck Trailer
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2005, 04:06:06 AM »
Looks to me like it was taken off a bumper hitch trailer and welded on that one Paul. If you're gonna use it for heavy loads change over to a true gooseneck connector. Hate to see that hitch break off and have the trailer join you in the cab. :)

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Re: Gooseneck Trailer
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2005, 04:52:51 AM »
Paul, I would suggest that you have a professional trailer builder do the hitching up for the change.  That way, for insurance reasons you are better covered.
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Re: Gooseneck Trailer
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2005, 06:07:59 AM »
I never seen a hitch put on like that for a goose neck, ?  I guess in theory it should
work, But my 2 cents, It doesn't look safe at all to me, But I'm kind of a nut on over
kill, But I figure better be safe then sorry. I would have it cut off & fixed right . With
the Standard gooseneck pipe.  ;)
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Re: Gooseneck Trailer
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2005, 07:44:32 AM »
The other point is that you can get a gooseneck hitch which has a mechanism which allows the ball to fold or drop down flat into the box floor, that way when you don't need it you still have the use of your pickup box.
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Re: Gooseneck Trailer
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2005, 08:18:01 AM »
good day, Paul!
I HAVE seen a rig like yours once or twice.....I was scratching my head afterwards.....
Around here most fellas use a recessed ball in a small box so they just cover it with a plate when not in service........ ;)
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Re: Gooseneck Trailer
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2005, 08:42:04 AM »
That hitch don't belong on a goose neck and I wouldn't trust it, my Mortiz has a adjustable square tube with the female part of the hitch within a square tube for height adjustment for the truck height.

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Re: Gooseneck Trailer
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2005, 10:56:25 AM »
paul if you put the over sized pipe reciever on the trailer you then have 2 options the goose neck tube will slide in and lock with bolts or a king pin tube will slide in.  hope this makes sense
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Re: Gooseneck Trailer
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2005, 11:01:52 AM »
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Re: Gooseneck Trailer
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2005, 02:06:34 PM »
Thanks everybody for all your input.I'd say it was unanimous,the hitch I have on there is haywire but you all think I should leave it the way it is ;D

I'm glad for the help and I have talked to a trailer and axle supplier in Vancouver and they sent me some information and pricing on couplers.The tubing in the first picture(first post) is 1/4" wall 3x6 tubing,and I have to figure out if I should take the torch to it and fit the 4" round adjustable coupler,or go with the square type which I think might fit in better.

When I was in my early 20's I had a Bobcat skidsteer that I packed around on a single axle homemade trailer with no brakes.It was pulled around by my little 77 Ford F150 shortbox.
When I backed the Bobcat onto the trailer,it would lift the back wheels of the truck right off of the ground and swing back and forth as the Bobcat was twisting around.
It never even dawned on me back then that it might be a dangerous thing to have on the road ???

I want this to be safe.

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Re: Gooseneck Trailer
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2005, 03:54:21 PM »
There are a few 5th wheel hitches that can pivot side to side as well as tip fwd and aft. They work pretty well if going over rough terain.  My dad has one for pulling his big camper.  He often takes it to Skeet Shooting events and has ended up parking in some pretty rough lots.
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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2005, 05:50:42 PM »
I find it interesting that a mobile home manufacturer can put that hitch on the tongue of a 16X80 mobile home and haul it down the highway at 70 mph and think it's safe, but when it gets mounted on the front of a small gooseneck, you guys think it's dangerous as all get out. Not saying you're wrong.  :o ::) ::)
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Re: Gooseneck Trailer
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2005, 09:09:39 PM »
Minn-Boy, nobody has said that that coupler is safe on a mobile home. Those guys get away with a lot of unsafe practices, if you ask me.  But the dynamics of a gooseneck vs a tag trailer are quite different. Figure the angles when you're in a turn on rough terrain, and the forces that are applied in a crash. A tag will tend to go under the vehicle in a rear-end collision, but a gooseneck can only go into the cab. :o :o  Also, the wheels on a GN tend to be placed further back, placing more weight on the hitch, so that hitch has to be as strong as we can practically make it. That little cup with a clamp behind it just ain't gonna cut it on a gooseneck.
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Re: Gooseneck Trailer
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2005, 12:54:25 PM »
Most house trylers are one way or the people that sell them hope so :D :D Most hitches have enough weight that they aren't going no where. Have seen some ware to the point that they drop down on the ball . Other than a big wreck most anything will stay put if given a fair chance . I just helped install a extending coupler for one them Geese neck trylers it were a real Goose Neck as it had the flying Goose on the tag.Have seen bumper tryler's pulled with to small truck and bumpers that the liscen plate was more than it could stand already.It makes a world of difference where you mount that ball plate in your truck too
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