The Forestry Forum is sponsored in part by:

Draw for handbuilt acoustic guitar get your name in


Forestry Forum
Sponsored by:


TimberKing Sawmills



Toll Free 1-800-582-0470

LogRite Tools



Norwood Industries Inc.


Sawmill & Woodlot Magazine



Your source for Portable Sawmills, Edgers, Resaws, Sharpeners, Setters, Bandsaw Blades and Sawmill Parts

EZ Boardwalk Sawmills. More Saw For Less Money!

STIHLDealers.com sponsored by Northeast STIHL


Woodland Sawmills

Peterson Swingmills

 KASCO SharpTech WoodMaxx Blades

Turbosawmill

Sawmill Exchange

BRUTE FORCE Authorized Dealer

Woodshax Outdoor Vending Solutions

FARMA


Council Tool

Baker Products

ECHO-Bearcat



Author Topic: Are ya'll runnin' ethanol free fuel in your mills?  (Read 2270 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline CX3

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 836
  • Age: 36
  • Location: SW Missouri
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
Re: Are ya'll runnin' ethanol free fuel in your mills?
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2018, 03:36:52 PM »
If you run them more than once a month your good to go. Drain any fuel when storing equipment. Ethanol in fuel will not cause a problem if not allowed to sit around.
John 3:16
You Better Believe It!

Offline dustyhat

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 405
  • Location: kentucky
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
Re: Are ya'll runnin' ethanol free fuel in your mills?
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2018, 04:13:35 PM »
Ethanol free in everything for me anymore.
Running a custom built stationary bandmill with a slightly modded four cyl jeep go devil engine.

Offline rrleesb

  • member
  • *
  • Posts: 25
  • Location: Jacksonville, FL
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
Re: Are ya'll runnin' ethanol free fuel in your mills?
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2018, 04:19:35 PM »
I've made the switch! Two years ago I rebuilt about 8 carbs that were bummed up. Not again!

Offline shortlogger

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 316
  • Age: 39
  • Location: Western Arkansas
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
Re: Are ya'll runnin' ethanol free fuel in your mills?
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2018, 02:55:48 AM »
Ethanol gas caused me lots of misery on a few occasions . I will not run it in any of my small engines even the ones that never go more than a day or two without running . if you run it you better stock up in carburetor cleaner. lol   
1 Corinthians 3:7 So then neither he who plants is anything, nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase . "NKJV"

Offline Dad2FourWI

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 251
  • Location: Central Wisconsin
  • I love my job
    • Share Post
Re: Are ya'll runnin' ethanol free fuel in your mills?
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2018, 08:38:20 PM »
Us too.... ethanol free in everything other than the car!

About every three months we take in the old Ford truck and put ethanol free gas in 15 5 gal containers and in old Floyd (the truck) as well...

We use premium non-ethanol only when we cannot find just plain non-ethanol.... but I have to admit that Floyd does like the premium... YUM... but a bit tough on the pocket book!  :D
LT-40, LT-10, Bobcat T750 CTL, Ford 1910 tractor, tree farmer

Online Crossroads

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 545
  • Age: 48
  • Location: Chitwood, Oregon
  • Gender: Male
  • letís make some sawdust
    • Share Post
    • Kevin Bales faith family farm and portable sawmill
Re: Are ya'll runnin' ethanol free fuel in your mills?
« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2018, 11:47:19 AM »
I keep 5 or 6 gas cans that only get non ethanol juice in them for the power equipment around the farm and for the sawmill. 
2017 LT40 wide, Kubota l185dt, 2-036 stihl, 2001 Dodge 3500 5.9 Cummings,

Offline waynorthmountie

  • member
  • *
  • Posts: 25
  • Age: 39
  • Location: Inuvik, NTW, Canada
  • Gender: Male
  • new guy that likes to tinker.
    • Share Post
Re: Are ya'll runnin' ethanol free fuel in your mills?
« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2018, 11:53:43 AM »
One of the things that we are not allowed up here in Canada. Every pump has ethanol blended gas. :-[

Offline flyboy16101

  • Full Member x2
  • ***
  • Posts: 125
  • Age: 27
  • Location: princeton pa
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
Re: Are ya'll runnin' ethanol free fuel in your mills?
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2018, 08:26:28 PM »
Ethanol free in everything except my truck. Around here they call it recreational gas and it's in it's own dedicated pump at the gas station. Be careful getting gas from the airport, if you get the wrong stuff it will burn too hot for your engine, and some of the additives might not be good for your seals depending on what they are made of. I also use marvel mystery fluid in everything I own to get extra lubrication on the fuel system.
Wood-mizer Lt35, International 504 w/ loader, Hough HA Payloader, Stihl Ms290, Ms660, Logrite Cant Hook

Offline DPatton

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 355
  • Age: 52
  • Location: SE, Nebraska
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
Re: Are ya'll runnin' ethanol free fuel in your mills?
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2018, 07:26:46 PM »
Non-ethanol for sure. Usually I try and buy premium 91 octane for my mill, and all my small engines, but I have to buy it elsewhere as my local station doesnít offer premium. If I buy locally for my small engines itís non-ethanol 87 octane. 
TimberKing 1600, 30' gooseneck trailer, Chevy HD2500, Echo Chainsaw, 60" Logrite.

Work isn't so bad when you enjoy what your doing.

Offline ljmathias

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 1300
  • Location: Purvis, Mississippi
  • Gender: Male
  • Been sawing part-time almost 27 years now
    • Share Post
    • Polymer Science Learning Center
Re: Are ya'll runnin' ethanol free fuel in your mills?
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2018, 08:53:44 PM »
Timely topic for me. Just bought a new Stihl weedeater and was talking to the mechanic in their shop about this very subject. In his opinion (for what it's worth), it's not the ethanol that causes problems but letting the fuel sit for a while- oxidation in the fuel tank. He recommended fuel stabilizer to keep it from going bad or gelling. Wish there was some good research on this to find the answer one way or the other...

LJ
LT40, Long tractor with FEL and backhoe, lots of TF tools, beautiful wife of 50 years plus 4 kids, 5 grandsons AND TWO GRANDDAUGHTERS all healthy plus too many ideas and plans and not enough time and energy

Offline Larry

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 5789
  • Age: 69
  • Location: NW Arkansas
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
Re: Are ya'll runnin' ethanol free fuel in your mills?
« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2018, 09:30:58 PM »
He recommended fuel stabilizer to keep it from going bad or gelling. Wish there was some good research on this to find the answer one way or the other...
LJ
Research huh? Husqvarna 272XP chainsaw new in 95. Husqvarna 350 chainsaw new in 99. Husqvarna 335LS weed eater new in 07. All get ethanol gas treated with Husqvarna black bottle 2 cycle oil with fuel stabilizer. The weed eater needs a primer bulb every couple of years that might possibly be caused by ethanol. The chainsaws have never had any fuel related problems. In the off seasons they sit for a couple of months without getting run.

Lawnmower, sawmill, and generator all use ethanol gas. I run them religiously the first of every month for about 15 minutes in the off seasons. No fuel related problems.

I think my savings from using ethanol gas are substantial.
Larry, making useful and beautiful things out of the most environmental friendly material on the planet.

We need to insure our customers understand the importance of our craft.

Offline Darrel

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 2096
  • Age: 64
  • Location: Sprague River, Oregon, USA
  • Gender: Male
  • Never throw an unopened log on the burn pile.
    • Share Post
Re: Are ya'll runnin' ethanol free fuel in your mills?
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2018, 09:40:58 PM »
Ethanol free is about $1.50 more per gallon putting it at about $4.75/gal. I was told by the Stihl dealer that if I used fuel stabilizer I wouldn't have anything to worry about. So that is what I do. I bought the tailgater generator at harbor freight and it says all over the package and everywhere else that if fuel stabilizer is not used the warranty is void. So I figure there must be some truth to what I was told. I hope I'm not proven wrong at some point in the future. Time will tell. 
1992 LT40HD

If I don't pick myself up by my own bootstraps, nobody else will.

Offline Brad_bb

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 2944
  • Age: 46
  • Location: Joliet, IL
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
    • My timberframe blog
Re: Are ya'll runnin' ethanol free fuel in your mills?
« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2018, 02:23:29 AM »
Leaving gas in anything for an extended period is not good- more than a couple months.  The lighter constituents can evaporate, assuming it is vented, which causes thickening, and if air can get to it oxidation.  Not nearly as much an issue in a closed gas can.  In a saw, weed eater, or mower, try to run them dry or dump the fuel out and then run what's left in the carb out.
Anything someone can design, I can sure figure out how to fix!
If I say it\\\\\\\'s going to take so long, multiply that by at least 3!

Offline ToddsPoint

  • Full Member x2
  • ***
  • Posts: 185
  • Location: Todds Point IL
  • Gender: Male
  • Stockmaker and Carver
    • Share Post
Re: Are ya'll runnin' ethanol free fuel in your mills?
« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2018, 05:00:32 AM »
I use ethanol because it's 35 mi. to the nearest station that sells plain gas.  If it was closer, I'd consider using it.  As is, I run everything dry every time.  No problems so far.  Gary
Logosol M7, Stihl 660 and 290, Kubota L3901.

Offline tylerltr450

  • member
  • *
  • Posts: 38
  • Location: Coal Region PA
  • Gender: Male
  • Trust me I run SAP and a sawmill
    • Share Post
Re: Are ya'll runnin' ethanol free fuel in your mills?
« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2018, 05:52:32 AM »
I run AV Gas in just about everything because it truly is ethanol free and has lead in it to help keep the valves lubed up. Chainsaws, Weedeaters, ATVs, lawnmowers you name it i put it in there because I can let something sit for over 2 years and it will fire right up without putting any additive in it.
Timber Harvester 36HTD25 fully loaded

Offline Just Right

  • Full Member
  • **
  • Posts: 67
  • Age: 48
  • Location: Barnesville, GA
  • Gender: Male
  • I'm new!
    • Share Post
    • JustRightSawing
Re: Are ya'll runnin' ethanol free fuel in your mills?
« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2018, 07:24:10 AM »
Ethanol goes in pint and quart jars NOT in fuel tanks!  Sometimes with peach, sometimes with strawberry, sometimes with apple.  Sometimes just corn and sugar.....best with a chunk of charred white oak and aged for a few months.
If your alternative fuel plant is big enough . . . . . . You will have enough to put into gallon jugs!  But I do agree with the corn and sugar!
If you are enjoying what you are doing,  is it still work?

Offline GDinMaine

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 540
  • Location: I love Maine!
    • Share Post
Re: Are ya'll runnin' ethanol free fuel in your mills?
« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2018, 04:16:32 PM »
I use fuel stabilizer in any gasoline besides the car's tank. Never had any issues even with an old push-mower, that just gets parked in the barn when mowing season is over. I just roll it back out in the spring, pull it 3-4 times and it fires right up. 
All small engines get 89-91 octane gas and fuel stabilizer. 

If you really want to be nice to your small engines buy airplane fuel. That stuff is expensive, but keeps a long time.
It's the going that counts not the distance!

WM LT-40HD-D42

Offline Alligator

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 328
  • Age: 64
  • Location: Slocomb, Al
  • Gender: Male
  • Born behind the slab pile, have turpentine blood
    • Share Post
    • Alligator Casey
Esterer Sash Gang is a  Money Machine

Offline SawyerTed

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 314
  • Age: 55
  • Location: Germanton, NC
  • Gender: Male
  • Hi, I have a saw dust addiction and fishing pox.
    • Share Post
Re: Are ya'll runnin' ethanol free fuel in your mills?
« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2018, 07:51:44 PM »
Ethanol goes in pint and quart jars NOT in fuel tanks!  Sometimes with peach, sometimes with strawberry, sometimes with apple.  Sometimes just corn and sugar.....best with a chunk of charred white oak and aged for a few months.
If your alternative fuel plant is big enough . . . . . . You will have enough to put into gallon jugs!  But I do agree with the corn and sugar!
Doc Watson used to tell the story about a guy that went into the liquor store and asked for Ole Rabbit.  The clerk said he didn't have Ole Rabbit but he had Old Crow.  The customer said he wanted Ole Rabbit because he didn't want to fly, he just wanted to hop around a little bit......
Pints and quarts are better than gallon jugs.
Woodmizer LT35HD25, Kubota MX5100, IH McCormick Farmall 140, Granberg Alaskan Chainsaw Mill, Husqvarna 372XP, Husqvarna 455 Rancher

Offline Southside logger

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 2354
  • Age: 46
  • Location: Wilsons (Dinwiddie County), VA
  • Gender: Male
  • Have a plan to saw every log you meet.
    • Share Post
Re: Are ya'll runnin' ethanol free fuel in your mills?
« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2018, 10:25:24 PM »
Well, I am going to go against the grain here I run 87 E-10 in all my engines and I have no issues at all.  Mind you they don't sit long with the exception of the wood splitter and come spring I will dump in some fuel stabilizer, shut off the fuel supply, run it out, then drain the carb bowl.  Now to really open the can of worms, I mix Wally-world marine injection oil at 32:1 in my Husky 372 saws and my weed eater, again with no issues, and those saws run hard.  
Franklin buncher and skidder
JD Processor
Woodmizer LT35 sawmill, KD250 kiln, BMS 250 sharpener and setter
Riehl Edger
Woodmaster 725 and 4000 planner and moulder
Enough cows to ensure there is no spare time.


Share via delicious Share via digg Share via facebook Share via linkedin Share via pinterest Share via reddit Share via stumble Share via tumblr Share via twitter

xx
Ethanol Free Fuel

Started by Qweaver on General Board

6 Replies
628 Views
Last post January 23, 2014, 09:12:43 PM
by TimRB
xx
Ethanol free fuel

Started by trapper on General Board

11 Replies
617 Views
Last post August 12, 2017, 05:53:14 PM
by Chuck White
xx
Is Fuel Stabilizer needed in ethanol free gas?

Started by gspren on Forestry and Logging

9 Replies
21380 Views
Last post November 03, 2013, 07:42:10 PM
by John Mc
xx
What Ethanol Free gas for saw?

Started by Jim Spencer on Chainsaws

30 Replies
13812 Views
Last post May 27, 2008, 03:00:52 PM
by zopi
 


Powered by EzPortal