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how do you clean your thin kirf sawmill blades?
« on: January 18, 2007, 08:06:28 PM »
 >:( I just spent most of my evening cleaning sawmill blades before sharpening them....

When out cutting custom work I cut logs of many spiecies and when blades get dull I just replace them and move on.....but when I get home I spend lots of time scraping off the hard sap with a paint scraper before putting them on the sharpening system.

What do YOU do?

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Re: how do you clean your thin kirf sawmill blades?
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2007, 08:10:07 PM »
I run the blade lube full bore (water) until the blade is clean.  Then I take it off.  :)
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Re: how do you clean your thin kirf sawmill blades?
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2007, 08:25:38 PM »

 If the dull one IS clean, wipe it down with an oily rag, before folding.
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Re: how do you clean your thin kirf sawmill blades?
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2007, 08:40:09 PM »
Run it full speed with the water off then spray/wipe it with your favorite brew (WD40/diesel/kerosene/etc.) before removing it.
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Re: how do you clean your thin kirf sawmill blades?
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2007, 08:46:18 PM »
I run a diesel oil drip and do the same- clean it before it comes off. Sometimes I may need to open the drip to saturate the blade and then hold a stick to the blade if there is a heavy, gummy buildup.
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Re: how do you clean your thin kirf sawmill blades?
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2007, 08:47:53 PM »
Your band should be clean while your sawing...if you have a build up of sap your probably not running nuff lube when sawing.

But if you get sap build up, do as Tom suggested.

And if you have a build up on bands waiting to be re-sharpened just spray them down with oven cleaner and wipe off the sap in bout 5 minutes.

And don't think you can use oven cleaner on carbide table saw blades...it's lye and weakens carbide.

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Re: how do you clean your thin kirf sawmill blades?
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2007, 08:57:01 PM »

 
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And don't think you can use oven cleaner on carbide table saw blades...it's lye and weakens carbide.

  Never knew that, Larry. Thanks
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Re: how do you clean your thin kirf sawmill blades?
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2007, 09:01:23 PM »
Thanks Larry

Now to have a carbide band saw woodmill......

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Re: how do you clean your thin kirf sawmill blades?
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2007, 09:10:29 PM »
Thanks for the suggestions all......but :-\

Won't the blade run off the pulleys with a lube like 10w or kerosene added and what can be added to the water to help with sap build-up?

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Re: how do you clean your thin kirf sawmill blades?
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2007, 09:15:30 PM »
I use carb cleaner before I take the blade off the mill, just a lite spray
and it scraps off easily.
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Re: how do you clean your thin kirf sawmill blades?
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2007, 09:16:54 PM »
use 50 50 diesel/bar oil all the time from squirt bottle.  I run it on every blade till clean before removing.  Got tired of scraping.
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Re: how do you clean your thin kirf sawmill blades?
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2007, 09:19:28 PM »
You can add a bit of dish soap to help with the sap or you can do like me and keep the blades really sharp and not run lube at all (well hardly).  ;D

Disclaimer:  There are some species that even I have to run lube to keep the blade from gumming up.
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Re: how do you clean your thin kirf sawmill blades?
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2007, 09:23:20 PM »
Robert, when I'm cutting something that's really sappy like spruce, pine, or tamarack I mix a few ounces of Dawn dish soap in with my water.  Last year I cut some red pine for someone that had them stacked for over a year.  I figured they'd be easy to cut....y'know, maybe less sappy since they sat for a while  ::)  I couldn't make more than one cut without the blade getting all gummed up and then taking a dive in the cant.  Put some dish soap in the water and it cleared right up  ;)  

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Re: how do you clean your thin kirf sawmill blades?
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2007, 09:24:34 PM »
For the most part, all I run is water in varying amounts.  Sometimes 1/3 cup to the gallon of dish soap like palmolive.
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Re: how do you clean your thin kirf sawmill blades?
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2007, 09:25:23 PM »
PineSol mixed with the lube water helps keep the blades clean when you are sawing pine. With other woods like sweet gum, I just run an extra good stream of water while cutting to keep the blades clean.

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If you mix dish washing detergent and water for lube, it can cause the water jug to fill with foam and you will be hours trying to fill it up with a hose the next time you fill the tank. Dont ask me how I know this :D :D
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Re: how do you clean your thin kirf sawmill blades?
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2007, 09:27:38 PM »
old pine may be the worst for sap build up.
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Re: how do you clean your thin kirf sawmill blades?
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2007, 09:30:14 PM »
Lots of old pine in the log pile  ::)

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Re: how do you clean your thin kirf sawmill blades?
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2007, 09:32:33 PM »
Hey...Minessota-boy

May be we should talk about sharpening to solve the other problems?

Robert

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Re: how do you clean your thin kirf sawmill blades?
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2007, 09:35:16 PM »
Won't the blade run off the pulleys with a lube like 10w or kerosene added

I don't know if it's the same with a WM, but if too much lube throws the blade on mine, it's a sign the wheel belts are way past worn out. A good crown on the wheel keeps the blade on no matter how much lube is applied.
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Re: how do you clean your thin kirf sawmill blades?
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2007, 11:11:35 PM »
Hello Robert,
I saw a lot of the gummy pine here in Virginia. We use a lot of pine-sol in our water and see a lot of bubbles. We never have sap on the blades when we change them. Something else we have had problems with is sap on the rails and under the guards. I had a brain storm a few weeks ago and cleaned the rails and guards real good. Then sprayed the heavy with PAM and have gone 3 blade changes with no sap on rails. I just wipe the rails with paper towel and spray on more. The buildup under the guards just wipes with a paper towel also. Sam's has the best price on both items.

Robert in Virginia


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