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Author Topic: Where can I find rear axle parts for a 1964 F600?  (Read 1990 times)

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Where can I find rear axle parts for a 1964 F600?
« on: August 08, 2013, 08:22:29 PM »
I have a 1964 F600 dump truck that we use around the farm, and all of the axle bolts sheared on one side in back.  I think that one of my farm hands worked on the rear end years ago and did not put the cone washers back in.

Does anybody have any idea on where I can purchase the studs and cone washers for where the axle bolts up to the wheel hubs?  I *think* that it's a Spicer axle, but am not positive.  If I could locate a hub inexpensively enough, I would purchase one of those as well as the broken bolts are proving challenging to remove...

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Re: Where can I find rear axle parts for a 1964 F600?
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2013, 09:00:18 PM »
Do you have any pictures?  Not sure what you mean by cone washers, around the axle shaft or around the hub of a five spoke wheel?

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Re: Where can I find rear axle parts for a 1964 F600?
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2013, 10:11:01 PM »
sounds like you need a hub or can drill the bolt and put easy out in they and back then out. Yes if you don't use  the locks (cone washer)it let it slip and break the bolts or studs.
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Re: Where can I find rear axle parts for a 1964 F600?
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2013, 10:14:57 PM »
Napa can probably get the studs and washers for you still can be stubborn to get out. What size rear end is it. They used the same ones for a lot of years back then. If it is an 18500 rear end, I have one. I bet you can find the hub cheaper than the shipping though. Another out is to just change the whole housing, put in a complete rear.
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Re: Where can I find rear axle parts for a 1964 F600?
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2013, 10:16:27 PM »
you can get them at napa truck part store or any heavy duty truck parts place
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Re: Where can I find rear axle parts for a 1964 F600?
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2013, 10:19:53 PM »
a new hub and bearing ,races , gasket and stud is going to cost at least 350 to 400
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Re: Where can I find rear axle parts for a 1964 F600?
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2013, 10:20:28 PM »
Also, try to find some left hand drill bits. The heat generated will a lot of times bring the stud out right on the bit.
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Re: Where can I find rear axle parts for a 1964 F600?
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2013, 09:37:54 AM »
All - thanks for the feedback.  I'll try Napa.

Julio - you hit the nail on the head!  The last guy that worked on the truck did not reinstall the cone washers, and all of the studs broke about 1/4" below the end of the hub.

WH:  I have a complete set of left twist drill bits and matching ez outs.  I concur that this is the best method.  My problem is that one of the newer farm hand attempted to drill out the broken studs, and he did not get his bits centered on the stud.  Then, he drilled too large a hole and into the threads on the hub, which is going to make removal even more difficult.  I have heli-coil sets, but there is not a whole lot of meat between the stud and the edge of the casting and I'm afraid that when I drill the hole for the heli-coil, I may drill through the edge of the casting.
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Re: Where can I find rear axle parts for a 1964 F600?
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2013, 10:22:23 AM »
How many did he bugger up? I have seen a lot of those old trucks running that were missing a couple of studs.
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Re: Where can I find rear axle parts for a 1964 F600?
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2013, 03:07:50 PM »
He buggered up two of them.  I'm going to try to remove what is left, and if I have to drill so large that I break through the outer wall I will weld in a plug and redrill.
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Re: Where can I find rear axle parts for a 1964 F600?
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2013, 03:58:41 PM »
That will work, hard to drill if you get into the weld. If they are not side by side they will hold up. I have seen many a load of logs hauled with 2 or 3 studs missing. Course more is better.
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Re: Where can I find rear axle parts for a 1964 F600?
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2013, 07:02:07 PM »
wish you were closer, I bet I have some of what you need but the shipping is a bear. let me know if you cant get the cones and such and I will strip some off if we can determine they are the same size as mine.

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Re: Where can I find rear axle parts for a 1964 F600?
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2013, 07:51:45 PM »
Thanks Ely!

Looks like one of my local auto parts stores has found the cone washers; they should be in next week.  I'm going to try to complete the broken stud removal this weekend.

Many thanks to everybody for the advice!

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Re: Where can I find rear axle parts for a 1964 F600?
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2013, 09:30:49 PM »
I used f700 fords for years napa had a kit that was studs one size bigger on one end you just bored out and rethreaded the bad holes one size bigger and put in the new suds easy fix  doghunter

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Re: Where can I find rear axle parts for a 1964 F600?
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2013, 05:04:34 PM »
I got on this a little late but there's an old trick for backing out a broken hardened stud which I've used on grade 8 bolts .First saturate  the area with a good pentrating oil .Then take a real thin drill bit and shaped it down to a point about like a scratch awl .It has to be hard thus an old drill bit ."peck " it out by tapping around the outer radii of the bolt .It takes a while but usually they will back out .

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Re: Where can I find rear axle parts for a 1964 F600?
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2013, 05:09:36 PM »
I too am a little bit late to this thread. But another method for removing broken off bolts and studs is to find a washer that fits tightly over/around the broken stud/bolt. Weld the washer to the end of the broken bolt. Then weld a larger nut or bolt to the washer. This will give you good leverage on the broken piece and the heat will help loosen it up.


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Re: Where can I find rear axle parts for a 1964 F600?
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2013, 12:13:22 AM »
Thanks all for the additional feedback. 

Chevytahoe - unfortunately the studs are broken off below the surface....

What I ended up doing was to center punch all of the broken studs that had not already been drilled, and use a combination of cobalt and carbide drills to drill a hole for an ez out.  Two studs came out fine, leaving 6 broken ones in place.  I was able to heat the hub and get two of the six out, but I still had 4 stuck in place.  Three of the four backed out about 1/2 turn, and then stuck, so I think that part of the problem was damaged threads at the top of the hole.

I picked up a 3/8" carbide end mill, and managed to drill out one and a half of the 4 remaining studs with it.  Unfortunately a tooth chipped on it, and the resulting carbide scrap in the hole took out the rest of the cutter.  I have a second new one, so this weekend I'm going to try to mill out a few more studs.  At this point I'm optimistic that I will be able to remove all of them.
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Re: Where can I find rear axle parts for a 1964 F600?
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2013, 11:23:32 AM »
 FWIW I've drilled out broken 3/4" grade 8 bolts from a brush chipper drum with solid carbide bits .Those were industrial salvage bits because the cost of new would break the bank . No matter how it's done it's not an easy fast job .

A tip to the OP in case I forgot to mention it .Once you get them out which you will coat the new studs with Never Seeze in case you have to unscrew them again .--which you might --

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Re: Where can I find rear axle parts for a 1964 F600?
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2013, 05:39:55 PM »
Al, thanks for the reminder about the never seize.  I have a pint in stock, and it is frequently used!
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