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Started by schmeg, April 01, 2014, 06:30:26 PM

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schmeg

New poster here from central Maine. Thanks to this forum, I made a new saw purchase today. I've owned 4 different Husky's over the last 20 years and use them on my 10 acre wooded piece of property. My last was a 357XP which I had proudly owned for 8 tanks of fuel, then it was stolen out of my garage. I went without a saw for 2 years and just couldn't take it any more. I have too much land maintenance to do this spring. My original plan was to cheap out on things and get a mid range saw "to get by" with. Well,,,after reading a bunch of threads on this forum, and about 2 minutes of hymming and hawwing in the Husky dealer and over $700. dollars poorer, I now own my 5th Husky. A 562XP. All I can say is I'm flabbergasted after bringing it home and running a half a tank through it. 2 pulls and it was started. Idles perfectly,throttle response is unreal, runs like a scalded dog,no smoke, and feels more comfortable than my beloved 357XP. Yes, I ran it hard. It's only 45 degrees out, so overheating isn't a problem. This saw is just miles better than what I have ever used. Thank you to all the users on the board that contribute to good posts. It made my selection process easy. Jay.
2023 MS400
2014 562XP
2007 357XP (stolen)
2004 346XP
1997 350
1992 55

thecfarm

schmeg,welcome to the forum. What town in central Maine? I have a 372. Hope that will last me a while longer.
Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

schmeg

I live in Glenburn. Just west of Bangor. I own and live on 10 acres on Rt.221. Mix of spruce, pine, and some maple. I've been selectively cutting on my land for 21 years now. I retire in 2 years which will give me more time to dabble in the woods. I need to buy a tractor now.
2023 MS400
2014 562XP
2007 357XP (stolen)
2004 346XP
1997 350
1992 55

thecfarm

There are a couple members up your way. A tractor is nice to have.
Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

Dave Shepard

I've heard a lot of god things about the 562. I'm waiting for the 595. ;D
Wood-Mizer LT40HDD51-WR Wireless, Kubota L48, Honda Rincon 650, TJ208 G-S, and a 60"LogRite!

schmeg

I'm just so used to what I used to run. I always considered my 357XP to be all the saw I would ever need. This new saw was the same kind of jump as when I went to a fuelie 2 stroke 800 sled vs. carbs. All together different feel. What floored me right off the bat was a stone cold saw running like it was already warm. The vibes are a lot less too. Can't wait to go out and burn a few tanks up.
2023 MS400
2014 562XP
2007 357XP (stolen)
2004 346XP
1997 350
1992 55

Maine logger88

Welcome to the forum! I bought my 562 last fall there a great saw I ran the crap out of it this winter between 6 and 7 hundred cord cut with it so far and it hasn't skipped a beat all I have replaced is a bar last week and I've cleaned the air filter about once a week I'm definitely buying another one this summer or fall!
79 TJ 225 81 JD 540B Husky and Jonsered saws

SawTroll

You bought a great saw, Congrats!   :)
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Yatt

288 XP Lite
372XPG
562XP
357XP
550XPG
346XP
Dolmar 7900
028 Super totally rebuilt and ported
Speeco 28ton splitter
Silvey 510, Oregon 511AX & Tecomec grinder

schmeg

Thanks all. I'll never equal 700 cord, but I cut as a hobby on my land. This saw is way more than I will ever need power wise. I do have a dumb question. I noticed a fair amount of saws utilize catalytic converters now. It doesn't appear that my 562 has one. Am I assuming right that the autotune allows the saw to pass EPA without the use of a cat?
2023 MS400
2014 562XP
2007 357XP (stolen)
2004 346XP
1997 350
1992 55

HolmenTree

Husqvarna's X Torq  fresh air strato charging  design is what makes their engines pass  EPA regs .
Strato charging without catylatic mufflers is the flavor of design for the big saw companies today.
Making a living with a saw since age 16.

schmeg

Thanks. I'm somewhat familiar with stratified charges in the combustion process. It is used in some snowmobile engines also. Now I just have to get used to the saw and put time on it. I also need to figure out what the best chain/bar combo to use on it.
2023 MS400
2014 562XP
2007 357XP (stolen)
2004 346XP
1997 350
1992 55

HolmenTree

I run a 18" b/c on my 562 and it's perfect for me. I have a 372XP-24" for longer reach and more power.
But seeing your 562 is your largest saw I suggest you should run 20".


  

 
Making a living with a saw since age 16.

schmeg

The saw came with an 18. I have 9 working chains of that length right now. All 3/8 .58. Maybe I'll look into a 20 for bigger stuff of which my large stuff is 50-70 year old black spruce and some white pine. My hardwood is mostly 12" or less.
2023 MS400
2014 562XP
2007 357XP (stolen)
2004 346XP
1997 350
1992 55

DDDfarmer

Great saw, had to run the 55 to free a pinched bar  ::) and I went back to the 562 as soon as I could.

If he doesn't have any trees over 36" why bother with a 20" bar? But I don't know what his trees are like.  I would say have two bars for that saw, and put the longer bar on only when needed, if needed.

I have a cookie from a black spruce that is 200+ years old and is around 7" 
Treefarmer C5C with cancar 20 (gearmatic 119) winch, Husky 562xp 576xp chainsaws

HolmenTree

Quote from: schmeg on April 02, 2014, 10:03:44 PM
The saw came with an 18. I have 9 working chains of that length right now. All 3/8 .58. Maybe I'll look into a 20 for bigger stuff of which my large stuff is 50-70 year old black spruce and some white pine. My hardwood is mostly 12" or less.
Just stick with the 18" then as I now see what size of timber your in.
I used to log with 18  on a Stihl 064 in 12-20" average timber and I could put up a lot of tree length in a day. Felled limbed and topped.
In the bigger spruce pushing upwards of 24-30" I'd run 20".
Making a living with a saw since age 16.

Maine logger88

All I ran was 18 in bars up until last fall when I bought my 562 which came with a 20 so I gave it a try and liked it and have since switched over on most of my saws. But I will say almost all trees around here can be cut with an 18 but it is nice to have a 24 or 28 in the toolbox for those rare biguns
79 TJ 225 81 JD 540B Husky and Jonsered saws

nhlogga

The 562 will handle a 24" b&c in pine with no problem.
Jonsered 2260
Husky 562xp

HolmenTree

Quote from: nhlogga on April 05, 2014, 01:15:20 PM
The 562 will handle a 24" b&c in pine with no problem.
the 562- 24" is too slow for me plus the poor balance turns me off......thats where my 372XP with 24" comes in.
Making a living with a saw since age 16.

JohnG28

Quote from: HolmenTree on April 05, 2014, 02:56:27 PM
Quote from: nhlogga on April 05, 2014, 01:15:20 PM
The 562 will handle a 24" b&c in pine with no problem.
the 562- 24" is too slow for me plus the poor balance turns me off......thats where my 372XP with 24" comes in.

Before I had my Stihl 460 I had a 24" that I would put on the 361 for the rare occasion I needed it. It did ok and got the job done, but now if I need that bar length the 460 is wearing it. Much better suited to the task. ;)
Stihl MS361, 460 & 200T, Jonsered 490, Jonsereds 90, Husky 350 & 142, Homelite XL and Super XL

Rob5073

Schmeg, 
Have you noticed any issues with hesitation when coming off idle or trouble with warm restarts since owning the saw?  I know there was a thread here discussing it and it seemed many owners of the saw were having the same problems.  This is an AutoTune model, correct?

Also, I just went on a popular shopping website with a "rainforest name"  and see they are selling Husqvarna 562xp's! Showing the price also!

schmeg

Yes, its an autotune and that technology works perfect. Understand the Autotune only works on the high speed circuit, so the slow speed left to its own devices which is lean for EPA reasons which is why the saw has a stalling problem. Some people claim changing the carb will fix the issue, but that is probably due to jetting differences (tolerances) from carb to carb. Thats why it works for some people and not others. If you are a climber, I would look elsewhere. On the ground, I wouldn't worry about it. Its more of  an occasional annoyance than anything. Hopefully there will be a fix soon. I would buy the saw again if given the chance. I also would give the MS362 CE a closer look. But I understand they have their issues too.
2023 MS400
2014 562XP
2007 357XP (stolen)
2004 346XP
1997 350
1992 55

HiTech

Welcome and yes the 562 XP does run like a scalded dog. It goes from zero to 60 faster than any saw I ever owned.

Rob5073

Thanks for the answer.  I have a 545 AT and it's great especially when I'm changing from home altitude of 1000 ft to 8000 ft at our cabin.  I just heard complaints from the 562 AT owners.  I'm a firm believer in electronic engine management.

HiTech

Quote from: HolmenTree on April 05, 2014, 02:56:27 PM
Quote from: nhlogga on April 05, 2014, 01:15:20 PM
The 562 will handle a 24" b&c in pine with no problem.
the 562- 24" is too slow for me plus the poor balance turns me off......thats where my 372XP with 24" comes in.
The balance is way off with a 24 "bar. I bought a 24" bar and put it on and picked the saw up and set it back down and took the bar off. Yes, the 372 XP handles it with ease.

M_S_S

Lol I guess us west coast boys don't understand balance. I run a 24'' on my 562xp and a 28'' or 32'' on my 385xp.
2- 562xp 24"bar
         576xp 28"bar
         385xp 28" and 32" bars
         25 ton Speeco
         6600 Ford
         02 Dodge diesel
         73 Ford 250

HolmenTree

Quote from: M_S_S on April 15, 2014, 09:58:22 PM
Lol I guess us west coast boys don't understand balance. I run a 24'' on my 562xp and a 28'' or 32'' on my 385xp.
Lol, west coast balance means nothing for the application in this thread.
The OP and the majority of posters on this thread are from no where near the left coast :D
Making a living with a saw since age 16.

schmeg

Sorry, there is nothing left of center in my life, but anyway, had the saw out again today. Purposely trying to get it to bog just playing around with it. Outside temp 35F. Clear, low humidity. A good day for working. Here are some findings:
1. Saw doesn't bog at all after start-up and for first few minutes of operation. Runs real clean.
2. Once the saw is up to temp, it won't bog if it idles for less than 5 seconds.
3. If you let the saw idle for a couple of minutes, it bogs bad for a split second then either rips hard or stalls. Not much smoke, but some when it revs up, so it acts more like the saw is loading up than leaning out, but it actually could be a little of both.
4. Outside of this small issue which can be annoying at times, this saw runs like a motocross bike with a bar attached to it.
2023 MS400
2014 562XP
2007 357XP (stolen)
2004 346XP
1997 350
1992 55

HolmenTree

Schmeg,  when I bought my 562  new after some use it started to give some erratic behaviors.  I put a new spark  plug in and has been running good ever since.

Making a living with a saw since age 16.

schmeg

I'm heeding over to the saw shop tomorrow to pick up my 2 year old grandson a plastic chainsaw so he can help me with cutting this weekend. I'll pick one up then and give it a try. 
2023 MS400
2014 562XP
2007 357XP (stolen)
2004 346XP
1997 350
1992 55

HolmenTree

Seeing the saw is new you still have warranty on your side if worse case scenario the plug doesn't help.
Making a living with a saw since age 16.

schmeg

Well, I went in for a plug today. I discussed the bog issue with the owner of the shop. He said that Husky is coming out with a new carb later this spring. If the saw still has the issue when the carb comes out, he will replace the carb under warrantee. When I brought this up, he was well versed in the problem. He stated some saws do it, some don't. I'll be trying the new plug later today.
2023 MS400
2014 562XP
2007 357XP (stolen)
2004 346XP
1997 350
1992 55

schmeg

New plug didn't do a thing.
2023 MS400
2014 562XP
2007 357XP (stolen)
2004 346XP
1997 350
1992 55

HolmenTree

That's unfortunate.  Warranty it will be :-\
Making a living with a saw since age 16.

Spike60

These problems are often misinterpreted on forums like this. Only a very small number of the saws have a carb with this issue. But the pending arrival of a new carb leads some to the mistaken conclusion that all of the EL-46 carbs have the same issue.

If your saw is actually bad enough that it will stall, another of the current carb can be installed and the problem will most likely disappear. It's not like you have to live with the problem until the new carb is available. Did the dealer plug it in and hit the fuel setting reset?

Some other mis-information in this thread: AT does NOT only work in hi-speed. There is no manual Lo speed mixture or even an idle adjustment screw. The entire RPM range is controlled by AT and the throttle position sensor.

It is often possible to create some slight hesitation on an otherwise perfectly running saw by frequent and unecessary throttle blipping between cuts. I discovered this as I'm one of those chronic throttle blippers that's annoying to be around.  :)
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sharkey

How about when you shut the saw down to move limbs, does it fire right back up easily? 

HolmenTree

Quote from: Spike60 on April 18, 2014, 06:48:34 AM
It is often possible to create some slight hesitation on an otherwise perfectly running saw by frequent and unecessary throttle blipping between cuts. I discovered this as I'm one of those chronic throttle blippers that's annoying to be around.  :)
I was thinking the same too Spike. Seeing I noticed the OP mentioned earlier he was "trying to bog" the saw.
Making a living with a saw since age 16.

schmeg

Re-starts are good. It always fires right up with or without high idle. The only issue is a lean spot just off idle. I flooded it yesterday during the cold start, but that was probably my fault. I'm interested to see if the saw works out of this with more use. After all, its only had a total of a half gallon of fuel put through it. I understand sometimes they work out of this issue. jay.
2023 MS400
2014 562XP
2007 357XP (stolen)
2004 346XP
1997 350
1992 55

HolmenTree

Jay, did you do the 5 minute at WOT in the wood as the owners manual instructs?
Making a living with a saw since age 16.

Spike60

Quote from: schmeg on April 18, 2014, 12:01:39 PM
Re-starts are good. It always fires right up with or without high idle. The only issue is a lean spot just off idle. I flooded it yesterday during the cold start, but that was probably my fault. I'm interested to see if the saw works out of this with more use. After all, its only had a total of a half gallon of fuel put through it. I understand sometimes they work out of this issue. jay.

What's that old joke?

"Doc, if I press right here it hurts."

"Then don't press there anymore."

:D

Oooops, meant to quote Holmen's post. How do you delete this????????????
Husqvarna-Jonsered
Ashokan Turf and Timber
845-657-6395

schmeg

Quote from: HolmenTree on April 18, 2014, 12:52:23 PM
Jay, did you do the 5 minute at WOT in the wood as the owners manual instructs?
Yes I did, Laid right into a nice cherry stump. I've been making cookies on it ever since day one. Went out and sawed up a little bit today after work. Just a tank full. OAT is 50ish F. It seems the bog is there all the time regardless of idle time now. Once the saw spins down to idle, then when you trigger it up to full throttle, it will bog, or feel lean until it gets spinning. If this was my EFI snowmobile, I would just plug my laptop into the Powercommander and add a few points to the fuel table at that RPM and throttle position. Anyone ever hot wire a a fuel module to a saw?
2023 MS400
2014 562XP
2007 357XP (stolen)
2004 346XP
1997 350
1992 55

HolmenTree

Quote from: Spike60 on April 18, 2014, 06:48:34 AM
These problems are often misinterpreted on forums like this. Only a very small number of the saws have a carb with this issue. But the pending arrival of a new carb leads some to the mistaken conclusion that all of the EL-46 carbs have the same issue.

If your saw is actually bad enough that it will stall, another of the current carb can be installed and the problem will most likely disappear. It's not like you have to live with the problem until the new carb is available. Did the dealer plug it in and hit the fuel setting reset?

Some other mis-information in this thread: AT does NOT only work in hi-speed. There is no manual Lo speed mixture or even an idle adjustment screw. The entire RPM range is controlled by AT and the throttle position sensor.

It is often possible to create some slight hesitation on an otherwise perfectly running saw by frequent and unecessary throttle blipping between cuts. I discovered this as I'm one of those chronic throttle blippers that's annoying to be around.  :)
Making a living with a saw since age 16.

ehp

your saw is no different than any other 562 I have ever seen and I have seen alot of them, I keep reading they are to lean off idle , every 562  I have worked on stock or ported was rich and never lean off idle and once you study the carb setup you will see and understand why that is , I build a single part for the fuel system and I have zero bog and I'm not sure why no one else has done this as it was very easy to see what the fuel system needs to come off idle proper . The carb setup on the 562 has quite a large range in fuel and even at - 35 outside it still has lots of fuel and is not running lean but jets down in 80 F heat good as well, yes sometimes they donot like starting when hot but thats more a heat problem than anything else , The 562 produces more heat cause it produces more power than most saws in that cc size , more power means more engine heat , I have very little problems with my ported 562s on hot starts and I have ran the crap out of these saws and I like my ported 562s more than any other saw I have ever owned , Spike you have never seen a throttle blipping guy until you hear me running a saw  :o, I'm brutal for that but the 562 would just sit on the rpm limiter all the time if you did not blip the throttle

leonid123

I have 661 new ones purchased in the summer, then I bought 550 xp already used but it works almoust like a new one. It had only 4 minutes of work. In the fall, I purchased 192T and the 201T, in excellent condition  . In September I bought a 2077 turbo in perfect condition. Now I want to buy 562 xp, and I’ll stop on that for now. By the way, in Romania 562 xp you can buy a new one from the store for 500 euros.

Wairoa

We use ours with 16in bar. Perfect balance. Any thing longer is like having a horse dong. Looks flash but you want something thats works well and is easy to handle all day long.Struggle to see Husqvarna recommending a long bar for the saw. If anyone can I would love to read Husqvarna's response email on this issue.

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