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mounting rear snowblower on front.
« on: December 09, 2014, 01:33:40 PM »
Wondering if anyone has mounted a rear snowblower on the front of a tractor.  I have a 90 hp MF and a 7 ft blower. Thinking about a pto pump and motor. 

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Re: mounting rear snowblower on front.
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2014, 01:42:07 PM »
If you think your tractor hydraulics can run that motor, fab up a mount  for your FEL and plumb it up.   The direction of rotation would be a problem if running off pto but the hydro motor gives you a lot of flexibility.   
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Re: mounting rear snowblower on front.
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2014, 02:15:16 PM »
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Tell us more about what snowblower and what tractor you are thinking of this mod for?

How about some more info in your bio (under your profile) ?  Helps with answers and suggestions ;)
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Re: mounting rear snowblower on front.
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2014, 02:21:52 PM »
That is going to take some serious oil to run, unless you have the pump lying around I think it would be an expensive endeavor.  Back when we lived in snow country I was going to do something similar but planned to use a 4WD transfer case to get the PTO power up front, I ended up finding an old adjustable BOSS V plow and rigged that up instead and was very happy. 
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Re: mounting rear snowblower on front.
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2014, 03:20:49 PM »
Take a look at how Schulte does it for high hp tractors and source a smaller rated 180 gear box.
Frame and lift would be a easy build.

http://www.schulte.ca/product/snow_removal/fm3502.html

Another frame and gear box mfg.

http://www.lorenzmfg.com/front_mount_kits.htm






If you have a Front loader already there is a way to limit lift and use the pto up front also.

Dig around his channel and you find a bunch on that 110 loader blower set up.

Jump to the 4:30 point and you can see him hooking it up.

http://youtu.be/d055NB568Cg?t=4m30s

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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2014, 06:56:18 PM »
Yes I have a front loader which i fabricated to accept bobcat quick switch and would like to use hydraulics.  I would mount a pro pump fabricate a pump and use hydraulic motor.  The problem is the cost if it does not work. The tractor is a Massey Ferguson 90 hp tractor and the blower a 7 ft puma.

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Re: mounting rear snowblower on front.
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2014, 02:21:22 AM »
It can be done for sure, and other's have done it. 

In order to mount the blower on the front end loader, you would need a PTO driven hydraulic pump, resevoir, cooler, hoses, fittings etc. which all mounts to your 3 point hitch.  You would basically need to build a hydraulic power pack, which you can also purchase.  Of course, you can build one, but that depends on your time, money, and skill level.  If you were to build one, I'd recommend copying one of these designs...

I know Landpride and Quick Attach both sell them, and I'm sure there are more....
Here is the complete kit, from Quick Attach, including a new 7' blower, and power pack that turns out 3k PSI at 24GPM.  This would probably run around 8k-10k dollars.  http://www.quick-attach.com/attachments/hydraulicpowerunit/hp24-85-inch/

Here is just the Power Pack from Landpride, 3k PSI at 30GPM This one would cost between 5k-6k dollars.  http://www.landpride.com/products/90/hrs30-series-hydraulic-reservoir-systems




The other option, which would probably run your blower a lot more efficiently, would be a front mount kit, that connects to your rear PTO, like Reddog posted.  Pronovost also sells a kit like this, and I believe Lorenz may as well, and possibly Erskine...The kit would include a reversing gearbox as well.  I never see them for sale used. 

I believe they are around 3 grand for the kit, but don't quote me on that.  This could be your most cost efficient way to go if you want to use your current blower.
There is a member on here who has a similar setup, I'm trying to think of his name at the moment.   ::)

Is the tractor a cab tractor?  What model is it?  If it's cab, you could save a ton of money and hook up a rear facing camera similar to what vehicles have, but this isn't ideal either. 


A third (and in my opinion FAR superior) option, would be to sell your snowblower, put some money with it, and purchase an inverted (pull behind) snowblower.  Unless you live somewhere that gets over 2-3' on a regular basis at one time (which you may???) then an inverted blower on a 90hp tractor, would be the ideal compliment in many different situations. 

This way, you leave your FEL on, and use it when needed.  You also drive forward, saving your neck, and you use your PTO, which is going to be far more powerful than any hydraulic setup you fabricate.  Another advantage is maneuverability, if you take your FEL off, it makes a very maneuverable package, since the pivot point is your rear tire, you have the snowblower behind the pivot point, and the front wheels of course in front of the pivot point, as opposed to having the blower WAYYY out in front of your pivot point (the rear wheels). 

Rear pull blowers are typically heavier duty than the standard Puma series as well, more comparable to the Group I or Group II blowers from Pronovost.  Brand new blowers like this are also very expensive, you can get lighter duty models (equivalent to your Puma series) for around 5k, or a heavy duty model, something like a Shoule S92, Provonost P-920, or Normand N-92 which will run you closer to 9k dollars. 
However, although the cost is very high, it's not uncommon to find these used after the snow season is over, for half price of new.   

Hopefully there are some members on here reading this that use inverted blowers in their commercial business and can chime in. 
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2014, 02:50:55 AM »
I believe they are around 3 grand for the kit, but don't quote me on that.  This could be your most cost efficient way to go if you want to use your current blower.
There is a member on here who has a similar setup, I'm trying to think of his name at the moment.   ::)

It's killing me!  I'm too young to have memory loss!  Beenthere, you must know who I'm talking about?  He has a John Deere, with a cab, and a front mounted blower, I'm pretty sure he lives in NH.  His avatar is a pic of his tractor with the blower setup.  Arrrgghhh...  >:(

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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2014, 02:54:31 AM »
AH HA!!!! 

I got it!  8) 8) 8)

 Roger2561  http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=18784
Shoot him a PM, I bet he has some helpful info you could use. 

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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2014, 05:44:23 PM »

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It's killing me!  I'm too young to have memory loss!  Beenthere, you must know who I'm talking about?  He has a John Deere, with a cab, and a front mounted blower, I'm pretty sure he lives in NH.  His avatar is a pic of his tractor with the blower setup.  Arrrgghhh...  >:(
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2014, 11:39:44 PM »
  Ah yes how quickly the young minds get lost.  ;D :) ;D

 :D :D :D  I redeemed myself  :)
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Re: mounting rear snowblower on front.
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2014, 08:27:49 AM »
Could you power the blower with a diesel Jetta engine or the like?   You have a decent sized tractor so weld a cage to hold the engine and transaxle that is also attached to the blower that goes on your quick connect and run a throttle control cable.   
This way it's real quick to swap out and you can raise the blower higher to work back banks.   A rusted/wrecked donor shouldn't be big $$$
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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2014, 09:01:41 AM »
If you have acces to another power source, great, but the redneck in me would cut the front clip off a front wheel drive compact. Figure which way I needed it to rotate and which gear ratio was best, it might be reverse,   Lock up the the other half axle and connect the preferred one to the blower,  cv boots and all.  weld brackets to the car subframe as necessary to mount blower and quick connect plate.     Use the windshield reservoir as a fuel tank and drill a hole in the fender to stick the ignition in if I didn't leave the steering wheel.    It might not even need a throttle cable as you could set it to 540ish and let it be.  You could reverse it if needed thru the transaxle.   I'm not even sure if an automatic wouldn't work.   Leave the hood and everything right on it, but that's just me.   
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2015, 06:22:25 AM »
A sport bike wouldn't be my first choice to power it but....
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Re: mounting rear snowblower on front.
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2015, 07:23:16 AM »
Back in the 80's, when I was stationed at Griffiss AFB, NY, there were lots of pickups in the area with snowblowers mounted on them vs snow plows!

They would move lots of snow in little time.

Just had to be careful, visibility issues, had to watch out for pets and kids!
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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2015, 08:44:29 AM »
Smaller tractor, but shaft driven from the PTO.





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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2015, 08:49:05 AM »
This one is not tractor mounted, but I thought is clever. The power unit is in back.



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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2015, 12:29:43 PM »
AH HA!!!! 

I got it!  8) 8) 8)

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Shoot him a PM, I bet he has some helpful info you could use.

That unit on front of my JD is an Erskine 721 (6 foot), it's powered from the rear PTO.  There's a short PTO shaft from the tractor PTO to a transfer case which rests on the drawbar; there's a shaft that runs the entire length of the underbelly of the tractor to the blower.  The hydraulics are DQ's that the FEL used.  That unit costs in the ballpark of $9,000.00 (about 5 years ago) but I got it used (one storm through it) for $4,000.00.  I hope this helps.  Roger   

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« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2015, 04:02:09 PM »
I use a rear mount pull forward unit. It's 87" wide. I have a 52 HP Massey Ferguson. I use it in low range 4th gear or 3rd if it's really wet or packed. I paid just under $6K for it in 2012 with the hydraulic chute rotator:
 

  

  

 

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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2015, 04:33:08 PM »
A sport bike wouldn't be my first choice to power it but....

I'd at least put a muffler on it!


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