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Ok so I bought one of these
« on: June 05, 2015, 06:57:14 PM »
 

 
Bought this from a friend who used it 18 years ago to build his log home. I found Belsaw on it but haven't really looked it over to know exactly what I have. I'm going to try and get it home tomorrow. I have more pics but i'm exhausted from posting this one!
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Re: Ok so I bought one of these
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2015, 07:18:41 PM »
Keep us updated. Nice find.

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Re: Ok so I bought one of these
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2015, 07:29:47 PM »
I like it! I love history.  :)
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Re: Ok so I bought one of these
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2015, 08:30:51 PM »
Omg...awesome!!! Can I buy it?? I don't have any money...great find!!!
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Re: Ok so I bought one of these
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2015, 08:42:23 PM »
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Re: Ok so I bought one of these
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2015, 09:21:08 PM »
It has a 350 Chevy with a 4spd trans. It does have a belt driven governor. Everything on the mill itself seems to be sound and free. Blade was new shortly before he stopped using it. All teeth look good and are accounted for.

Im not real sure how to use it but its MINE!! 8) 8)
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Re: Ok so I bought one of these
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2015, 06:15:44 AM »
Neat circle mill!  Timberking used to be Belsaw (as I understand it), if you call them they may be able to help identify the mill and possibly supply a manual.
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Re: Ok so I bought one of these
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2015, 06:31:08 AM »
It will be a good feeling to get that blade into some wood.
What's the plan for the lumber?
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Re: Ok so I bought one of these
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2015, 06:37:02 AM »
Teeth should be removable.  You'll need a tooth wrench to change teeth.  Neither is hard to find.

There are several Belsaw users here on the forum.  Should have you up and running in short order.
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Re: Ok so I bought one of these
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2015, 07:23:52 AM »
My buddies neighbor was the one who owned it originally and he was the one who ran it. I hope to meet the ol' boy and see what hes got for it. Maybe he can give me some lessons when she's up and running.

My hope is to cut enough lumber to build a garage to park our cars in in the winter. I have a shop but its full of tools and toys. I live in the woods and we have a ton of red pine, so thats what i will be using. I currently run a chainsaw mill just for kicks.

There are mills all over around here. Most cases the sawyer just got too old to run them. In the future I plan to visit a few and see what they had going.
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Re: Ok so I bought one of these
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2015, 07:25:26 AM »
Good luck with it. I love the sound of those big blades sawing. :)
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Re: Ok so I bought one of these
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2015, 08:13:38 AM »
With the picture you posted, my suspicion is that it could be an A-14 Belsaw, predating the M-14.  Try Vintagemachinery.org and search their documents.  You'll probably find all the info you'll need to identify it.  Take a careful look at the dogs as they are different between the two mills.  On the carriage, probably the front head block, you should find an oval aluminum tag that will be stamped with the model and serial number.

Their manuals are all free to download in pdf, then easy to print out if desired.  Good luck, and let us know for sure as my suggestion is just an UN-educated guess.....

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Re: Ok so I bought one of these
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2015, 03:26:29 PM »
The old goat otta know about history. I heard he's been around since y he Mayflower ;D

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Re: Ok so I bought one of these
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2015, 04:32:27 PM »
Well I got it home. The track looks to be homemade. Its 32 foot and does not come apart. It looks to be true and flat. The husk I'm not sure, when I get a peek at the factory ones I should be able to tell if its the real deal. Oiled everything up and its all free and moving.

The engine looks to be a lost cause. Its locked up tight. I don't care for the v8 anyhow. I'm looking into an F-head Willys or a Ford 300. I think the governor is something I can adapt to any engine since its belt driven.

I will get more pics up when I get it mastered. There are some in my gallery and I will get more when I go to town. The phone won't send pics from the woods.

Thanks for the encouragement and knowledge. I hope to be making dreams come true 8) in a months time.
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Re: Ok so I bought one of these
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2015, 07:06:42 PM »
The old goat otta know about history. I heard he's been around since y he Mayflower ;D

I'll eat a Mayflower too.  ;D
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Re: Ok so I bought one of these
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2015, 08:12:31 PM »
I'm looking into an F-head Willys or a Ford 300.


Do yourself a favor and put a 4.3 GM V6 in it and call it a day. It will cost less and be easier. Willys will be too much cost and trouble with low power. Don't reinvent the wheel, put something in that will bolt right up.

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Re: Ok so I bought one of these
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2015, 08:37:39 PM »
Bugsy, take note of saw and engine rotation. Don't overlook a tractor PTO which turns the right direction for a Belsaw, most engines don't. Frank C.
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Re: Ok so I bought one of these
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2015, 09:12:57 PM »
Im sure I can get my hands on a Chev of some sort. He said he ran it in second gear. Would that be the same direction of rotation as a pto? I have a Ford tractor that will run it then I can get my neighbor to load logs.

I paid $500 for it, I think i'm ahead.
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Re: Ok so I bought one of these
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2015, 09:58:27 PM »
I have been looking at pictures and comparing my mill. It seems it has been st up to run the other direction. Looking at the blade from the drive side it turns clockwise.
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Re: Ok so I bought one of these
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2015, 10:32:48 PM »
I believe all the older guys around here ran the chevy 292 six cyl. on them plenty enough power, and they have a longer stroke so they can really lug them down, and you should be able to hook the governer right up.
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