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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #440 on: April 03, 2018, 01:58:49 PM »
Not me, nope, not ever, never  smiley_smug01  And never knocked it against a log ta git it movin' again, after it got jammed up with saw dust. And absolutely never did that after throwin' da chain and getting a burr.   ;D
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #441 on: April 03, 2018, 09:37:10 PM »
Thanks for the info, it looks like I am missing one of the screnches, the grease gun and grease. I didn't see a parts list in the manual anywhere so I wasn't for sure.
 It turns out this scrench does fit the spark plug, I'm not for sure why I couldn't get it to fit when I first tried it. As for why there is no grease tool or second wrench, maybe they stopped sending those with the saws? 
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #442 on: April 04, 2018, 07:38:51 AM »
The grease gun that came with my 550XP according to its owners manual shows it's for greasing the clutch drum bearing.
Grease is pumped through a hole on the end of the crankshaft .
is that greasing procedure still necessary these days on stihl saws? I have never greased those needle bearings  
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #443 on: April 04, 2018, 08:12:20 AM »
Too be honest I never greased them that way.  With regular maintenance whenever I flipped the rim sprocket around 180  or replaced it, I would then grease the bearing by rubbing some grease into it with my finger. 

The grease gun procedure through the crankshaft hole must have been for some kind of severe logging conditions, water, dirt?
I would be worried too much grease might get into the clutch.
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #444 on: April 04, 2018, 10:16:36 AM »
I have one of those little grease applicators for use with an Oregon bar.
I notice that the little hole always gets filled with sawdust so I only use it after I blow out the bar with compressed air, about every 3rd sharpening.

I learned about the grease hole by not greasing the tip on a little Homelite saw I had a thousand years ago. The tip seased and the end of the bar split open.

I once asked a dealer why Stihl bars didn't have a grease hole in the tip.
He sad they were better made and didn't need it.

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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #445 on: April 04, 2018, 12:42:57 PM »
Coincidence maybe, but I use to grease the tips on my Windsor bars, and then I would blow a tip. So I gave up the habit. Processors bars don't have a greasable tip and they endure waaay more than a chainsaw bar. I think greasable tips might be a holdover from the days of the manual thumb oiler, where the chain wouldn't get enough oil out to the sprocket tip because we got lazy on the pumpin'😊
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #446 on: April 04, 2018, 10:31:32 PM »
As those needle bearings just turn when the saw is at idle they maybe don't need the grease. Never ever did i had to replace a bearing 
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #447 on: April 05, 2018, 10:48:07 AM »
 I'm going to pick up one of those grease guns today to grease the needle bearing in the clutch. 

 I've gotten a couple more tanks of gas through the saw, so far so good! It's extremely tempting to do a little work on the muffler, but thanks to this thread I think I'll try my best to wait out the warranty duration just in case  :D
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #448 on: April 18, 2018, 09:06:29 PM »
To all Canadians and outlying U.S. citizens,  Stihl Canada's spring flyer just came out.
$110 off on the MS261CM
$649.95 ($514 USD)
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #449 on: April 19, 2018, 12:59:51 AM »
Are you trying to see how many people sleep on their couchs after they bring that saw home ? Its like drinking an ice cold beer infront of someone who just quit, its just not nice.
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #450 on: April 19, 2018, 07:12:10 AM »
I did finally run mine though a punky red oak log. sure cut nice for its first cut. can't wait to get it into some real wood.
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #451 on: April 19, 2018, 12:24:00 PM »
I ran mine out of fuel the other day.
It took something like 30 pulls to get it started.
I'm going to try not to do that again.
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #452 on: April 27, 2018, 12:13:14 AM »
Sold my 290 on craigslist today and ordered the 261cm .  Will be here next week.  I love my 241cm that I replaced the 250 with.  I will buy the stihl oil to get the extended warranty since I use it anyway.
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #453 on: April 29, 2018, 07:55:54 PM »
Sold my 290 on craigslist today and ordered the 261cm .  Will be here next week.  I love my 241cm that I replaced the 250 with.  I will buy the stihl oil to get the extended warranty since I use it anyway.
After you run the 261 awhile give us a comparison on the 261 to the 241 as to felt weight and power.
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #454 on: May 02, 2018, 08:47:10 PM »
Holmen tree I want to thank you for taking the time to do this real world test. I finally got to use my MS261 cm for real tonight. I ran 1 tank of fuel through it. I have never had a saw cut anything like this one did and that was just the first tank.

The other user that mentioned running out of fuel is bad. I completely agree. It was a real pain to get it running again after running it out of fuel. I really wish stihl had put a primer bubble on it.

Overall. best saw I have ever run. it went through a 12" pine like a hot knife through butter. I can actually say now that I will no longer delay getting the saw out to cut something. Before it took an act of god to get me to fight with the stupid saw. Now I am sooo happy. It hurt when I bought it but it sure felt great to saw with it.

Thanx again. Keep up the great work. Love to see some more real world testing on other things I need to buy :)

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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #455 on: May 02, 2018, 09:39:17 PM »
I've noticed with my 362 c-m when it gets low on fuel it will start to miss a few times when ot gets low on fuel, then I stop and refuel it. I've never completely run her dry so I've never experienced what you guys are talking about, I know its a different saw but it should act about the same.
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #456 on: May 03, 2018, 07:42:18 AM »
I did notice the same thing on mine. now I know and I will try not to run it out anymore.
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #457 on: July 14, 2018, 10:52:30 AM »
Not broke in yet but my 261 does not like hot weather.  Make a few cuts or noodle a round if I shut it off It does not restart  and I have to use the 241.
Have not used it in cold weather yet. Leave it sit a day and it starts right up.  Will a shorter bar help?  Dealer talked me into the 20 inch.  Yes the baffle in the carb is set for summer.
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #458 on: July 14, 2018, 12:03:21 PM »
I would not use a 20" bar on a 50cc chainsaw. On the 50cc saws I've used, I find a 16" bar a better match - in terms of both power and balance.

However, I doubt that has much to do with your hard starting when hot.
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #459 on: July 14, 2018, 02:43:10 PM »
trapper, take it into your dealer and they may have to do a upgrade on the fuel settings with just a few clicks of the mouse on the laptop.
It should still be on warranty and my advice to other buyers the extended warranty is worth it.
Knock on wood my 261 is flawless running in the heat been good so far.
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