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How would you cut this log?

Started by bakerhardwoods, May 24, 2013, 03:43:19 PM

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bakerhardwoods

This is a white oak 10' x about 40" diameter on the small end.  How would you cut it?  I would like to have it quartersawn.



 


bedway

Well, let me say this about that log. If i were involved at all it would be from a supervisory position only. Dats a lot of log! ;D

Ianab

Easily, I have a swingblade mill  ;) :D

It sure looks like a candidate for quartersawing, but you probably need to rip it in 1/2 with a chainsaw as a first stage. Like Bedway suggests, a lot of work, but hopefully the quality of the boards make it worth the effort.

Ian
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Solomon

With what tools I have, I would go buy a couple new Chains for my big stihl saw and rip it in half.  If my mill were smaller I would rip the two halves in half and load it on the deck one piece at a time.    Beware  this is a lot of work, it involves a maul, big hard wood wedges, and a pinch bar along with at least two guys , four is better.
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     I'm with Ian.  I'd break out the Lucas.
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hackberry jake

I would split it with a chainsaw and wedges and sledges like this sycamore
 

  
Then load each half on the mill like this


 
If you're scared of it you could always just mail it to me. I think a couple stamps otta cover it.
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CALL JAKE :D


and WDH for supervision :)
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drobertson

Not sure of your saw, or size capacity, but splitting would be necessary for me at 40"  You could resize with a chain saw removing the major part of the slabs, but splitting seems to be the route. Still a hefty chunk.  david
only have a few chain saws I'm not suppose to use, but will at times, one dog Dolly, pretty good dog, just not sure what for yet,  working on getting the gardening back in order, and kinda thinking on maybe a small bbq bizz,  thinking about it,

bakerhardwoods

I'm pretending to be smarter, not lazier, in my old age and I like the idea of using a swing mill if it will get a good percentage of the material showing quartersawn fleck (sounds like a LOT less work).  The downside is that there should be some wide quartersawn boards in the center if it was cut in half first.  I'm trying to find someone with a Lucas mill to talk about cutting it and slabbing some other logs.

Chuck White

The first thing I'd do is quarter it, then saw the four pieces separately!

Nice log by-the-way!
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take it Indy and ask Wood-mizer to demo the wm1000 on it ;D
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kelLOGg

I'm with Hackberry. Did it once to a 34" oak and milled the halves just as in Jake's pic.
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Jay C. White Cloud

Hello Bakerhardwoods,

Very nice log!!! ;D 8)

I would take a 75mm (~3") box heart slab out of the center with my chainsaw mill, then one more slab off of each half.  Nice big slabs can sell very high depending on quality.  Now I would take what is left, split those, and quarter saw. 

Hope that helps.

jay
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JohnM

Quote from: hackberry jake on May 24, 2013, 05:18:56 PM
If you're scared of it you could always just mail it to me. I think a couple stamps otta cover it.

Jake, you're crazy!!!  Have you seen how much stamps have gone up recently??!! :o :( >:(

;) ;D :D

I reeeeally like nomad's answer...just sayin :-X
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Magicman

Very nice log.


 
I would load it up and saw it like this 42" White Oak.   :)
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WoodenHead

I'm always in awe over the size some of you (like Magicman) handle on your band mills.  I had a 24" dia (small end) white pine on my LT40 and thought that was big enough! I did manage to saw it through and through for some nice 2" slabs (with some chainsaw whittling at the fat end).

As for that nice looking 40" log, I would agree with Jay.  Take a thick slab from the middle and quarter saw the rest.   :)



mesquite buckeye

Split it with black powder! Way more cool than spending an hour trying to rip a big log w a chainsaw and also more fun. ;D 8) 8) 8)
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steamsawyer

Quote from: mesquite buckeye on May 25, 2013, 10:20:30 AM
Split it with black powder! Way more cool than spending an hour trying to rip a big log w a chainsaw and also more fun. ;D 8) 8) 8)


What you said... But then, that is the only reason I have a sawmill... For the fun. ;D ;D ;D

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losttheplot

To cut to the chase, fast forward to 14:00 mins

http://youtu.be/4c8rSYQngQ4

If you have the time this is a very entertaining 4 part series that involves chainsaw milling cruck timbers, hand splitting oak shakes and lots of other amusing stories.
Well worth the watch IMHO
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scsmith42

I would definitely quartersaw it.

Here is a 60" 68" red oak that I milled last week.



 
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POSTON WIDEHEAD

That's just nasty Scott. :D I'll bet there was some prime slabs out of that WHACK!
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Nomad

Quote from: scsmith42 on May 26, 2013, 12:09:20 PM
I would definitely quartersaw it.

Here is a 60" red oak that I milled last week.



 

     I like 'em like that!  But I need a stepladder to climb on the log to reach the lever... ::)
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scsmith42

Quote from: nomad on May 26, 2013, 04:56:45 PM
Quote from: scsmith42 on May 26, 2013, 12:09:20 PM
I would definitely quartersaw it.

Here is a 60" red oak that I milled last week.



 

     I like 'em like that!  But I need a stepladder to climb on the log to reach the lever... ::)

Amen.  That darn log was so big I had to add 14" spacers at the bottom of the carriage to raise the mill up even higher!

Sometimes I just walk the top of the log....



 
Peterson 10" WPF with 65' of track
Smith - Gallagher dedicated slabber
Tom's 3638D Baker band mill
and a mix of log handling heavy equipment.

POSTON WIDEHEAD

I like your log cabin over to the right.  smiley_thumbsup
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