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Would it be morally wrong????
« on: April 15, 2018, 11:45:55 PM »
Would it be morally wrong to put a 380 timberjack grapple on a John Deer 440?? I just picked one up very very cheap. Wife picked the grapple up today said it looks like junk to her but the photos she sent me it looks great. She just can't see what I'm seeing! Good Friend of mine has a welding shop/Hy shop that's going to help me fit it. 


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Re: Would it be morally wrong????
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2018, 11:51:29 PM »
Morally no....  what size tires are you running ??? anything less than a 23.1 your going to want a 5 point seatbelt because it's going to be a ride. 🤣

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Re: Would it be morally wrong????
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2018, 11:59:04 PM »
23.1 X 26 

Im going to cut it down to get some of the wt off it. 
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Re: Would it be morally wrong????
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2018, 12:09:09 AM »
single arch or dual ? I'm not going to knock it but a 440 just doesn't have the weight behind it, all depends on the ground and the wood, I'm in the rough stuff and my 460 has all it wants with 3-4 good ones sometimes and she is 2.5x a 440. 

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Re: Would it be morally wrong????
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2018, 12:13:30 AM »
I guess it would be a shame to waste a good tj grapple on a Deere lol lol lol! All jokes aside I donít see why it wouldnít work but going to need to get some closed center valves to make it work on the Deere. I agree with barge tho a 440 will be a bit light. Must be a esco grapple?
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Re: Would it be morally wrong????
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2018, 12:26:52 AM »
Its a old single arch with a esco grapple. I got the arch 2 Hy cy and the grapple for $500 bucks I dont think i can beat that. And they loaded it for my wife. As Im still offshore. 

BM most of my ground is flat nothing like what your cutting. Its going to take the place of a hog hog tractor. Im going to keep the winch on it too. I'm starting to cut a lot of pine plantations on there 2ed and 3rd thinning Where i get two 16 foot logs out each tree then the tops for pulp. Im not pulling poles. 
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Re: Would it be morally wrong????
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2018, 12:32:17 AM »
We had a 440C that was a single arch grapple skidder, when we did ours we bought the whole back half of a 548 and honestly it did really good like that.

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Re: Would it be morally wrong????
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2018, 12:42:03 AM »
I put a down payment on a 440d which has a 90 hp motor on it. I hope it does good. I plan to put water in the tires too to put some more wt to it. But like I said its replacing a hog hog tractor so its got to be better than that. 

The reason i went with the 440 because with 26.1 rubber its still only 8.7 feet wide. I dont need a permit if its wider than 8.6 so I hope they let me slide lol
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2018, 12:54:26 AM »
Offshore ??? Theres got to be like 6-7 boat guys here on the FF I count now 🤣 I secretly miss being "chief", this working for a living stuff 8 days a week is getting old.

I've got a 440D, a good machine but you want to go easy, on flat ground I think you will be fine. I've got ALL the books for that machine if you need copys of stuff.

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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2018, 01:35:27 AM »
BM 
I'm a Captain and OIM on a drillship. I been offshore sent Feb 20th get to go home in a week for 5 weeks off then come back for 5 weeks. Were in middle east right now. I am one of the very few Captains that really come up on the drilling side. 

That 440d got to do better that that log hog. I hope I like it. Im planing to start running 2 trucks both bob tail with trailers. I got to get me a better loader too but Right now I think I will be fine. 

My wife has started to the the ram rod of our little farm. I have to give it to her she has really put a lot in to it and takes care of stuff when Im gone.  

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Re: Would it be morally wrong????
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2018, 08:39:25 AM »
I put a JD grapple on a Tree Farmer C5D. It had the Esco arch with a 72 inch grapple. (The single cyl arch). Since we chip are top's & under size wood,the big grapple works real good for us. My Son's didn't think it could handle it. It does have 23.1-26 tire's. I just wished I'd of not scrapped the duall arch. I'd of put that on my c7. But I found a TJ dual arch we'll put on the 7 this spring. 

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Re: Would it be morally wrong????
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2018, 09:02:02 AM »
Offshore ??? Theres got to be like 6-7 boat guys here on the FF I count now 🤣

Well where else are you gonna find so many expenses to offset that paycheck?  Cmon, be a logger they said..itll be profitable they said.   

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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2018, 10:59:00 AM »
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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2018, 11:34:34 AM »
Offshore ??? Theres got to be like 6-7 boat guys here on the FF I count now 🤣

Well where else are you gonna find so many expenses to offset that paycheck?  Cmon, be a logger they said..itll be profitable they said.  

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I have not paid in taxes in 18 years lol logging and working over seas tax wright offs. They wonder how I feed my self. 
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2018, 11:44:07 PM »
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I'm a Captain and OIM on a drillship. I been offshore sent Feb 20th get to go home in a week for 5 weeks off then come back for 5 weeks. Were in middle east right now. I am one of the very few Captains that really come up on the drilling side.

That 440d got to do better that that log hog. I hope I like it. Im planing to start running 2 trucks both bob tail with trailers. I got to get me a better loader too but Right now I think I will be fine.

My wife has started to the the ram rod of our little farm. I have to give it to her she has really put a lot in to it and takes care of stuff when Im gone.  

I keep getting texts and job offers to go back, it was EASY money compared to logging fulltime. A friend of mine is C/E U/L for TO on an MODU, needs a wheelbarrow to carry his check home 🤣  5on 5off is just enough time on and almost too much time home, before I found a cake gig I was doing 2.5/1 and that was getting old, went 14/21 and that was nice. I'm tempted to go sit for my 2nds, I've got the time over 300GRT but I doubt I ever sail again. 

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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2018, 12:12:38 AM »
BM
I'm a Captain and OIM on a drillship. I been offshore sent Feb 20th get to go home in a week for 5 weeks off then come back for 5 weeks. Were in middle east right now. I am one of the very few Captains that really come up on the drilling side.

That 440d got to do better that that log hog. I hope I like it. Im planing to start running 2 trucks both bob tail with trailers. I got to get me a better loader too but Right now I think I will be fine.

My wife has started to the the ram rod of our little farm. I have to give it to her she has really put a lot in to it and takes care of stuff when Im gone.  

I keep getting texts and job offers to go back, it was EASY money compared to logging fulltime. A friend of mine is C/E U/L for TO on an MODU, needs a wheelbarrow to carry his check home 🤣  5on 5off is just enough time on and almost too much time home, before I found a cake gig I was doing 2.5/1 and that was getting old, went 14/21 and that was nice. I'm tempted to go sit for my 2nds, I've got the time over 300GRT but I doubt I ever sail again.
I like 35/35 it gives me 4 full weeks home to log. I been working off sent 1991. I love being at sea there nothing like it. I have worked in 25 country all over the world. I was dirt poor coming up never been out the USA or the South for that matter. IM 44 and I have seen the world. The money is good too. In 3 years I will have everything paid off Im going to stay home and log. If I can get a few loads a week I can make it. When I get them anchors tattooed on my feet I will never go back to sea.    
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« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2018, 10:18:23 PM »
IM 44 and I have seen the world. The money is good too.


Why not staying at sea instead of logging where everyone complains they're barely making a living!
Maybe a dump question but i have never work on the sea and could not imagine doing it!
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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2018, 01:26:02 AM »
I spent haft my life away from my family. Like this hitch I have been offshore Dubai sent feb 20th. The stress is unreal running a 1 million dollar a day drilling rig. Im just tired of it. I missed my kids growing up. When I get everything paid off Im shutting it down. I don't need that much to live off. Ex wife spent every thing I made. Im remarried my wife wants me home. She works with me in the wood and she a nurse too a great tractor driver and truck driver.  I have always had a little pulpwood truck and worked on my days off and love doing it. I been getting my equipment built back up I will have 2 bob tail trucks 2 pulptrailers loader and hog hog and small skidder. I can make a good liven off that. Offshore my day rate is 1500 a day overseas tax free. In 2012 I was making $2500 a day its not worth being gone 200 days a year thow. You guys with little ones enjoy them when there little because before you know it there out the house and grown. I have a grandchild now and Im going to be home for them. 

With everything paid off All i need is to pay taxes and light bill little food. 

My cuzz and I was talking about it one day he has a logging company He was telling me after he pay everything he only has 15K left over at the end of the month. Going broke!!! has a 5000 sq foot house new truck new equipment wife drives a new suv kids in private school that $600 a month. yea he going broke. 
  I learn after I got divorced money is not everything. You can give someone the world and they ask for the moon and stars. My wife now just wants me home. I was off work for 9 months and proved to my self I could do it and pay my bills when i went back to work my wife and I have made a plane to get everything paid off so I can log when I need too not pay a note on anything we can do that in 3 years.  All I know how to do is oilfield and log and its something I love to do.   
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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2018, 07:46:50 AM »
thanks for the explanation, now it makes total sense. you seem to be an intelligent fella!

1500-2500$/day without tax!!  Wow. Nice payday   
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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2018, 08:20:28 AM »
thanks for the explanation, now it makes total sense. you seem to be an intelligent fella!

1500-2500$/day without tax!!  Wow. Nice payday  
I have a interview with Exxon May 8th We are praying I get that job. If I do we can move it up to a year and a haft but will probably work 5 because it will be a 5 year contract. The rig I will be over will have a day rate of 600K a day with boats and choppers everything added up probably spend 2 million a day. 
I'm just a redneck that loves to work with my hands. All I have ever done was log/ pulpwood, farm and oilfield. My wife has the business head. She keeps the books and keeps me busy with jobs. I know how to turn work and get people to turn work fast. If I have pretty good wood I will turn out 200 tons a week by my self. 
Guys get ready for 90 to 100 dollar a bbl oil in the next year and a haft. Everyone is getting ready for it in the oilfield. Company's are getting rigs under contract now. Getting new wells planed and ready to start. The well we just drilled tested at 5,000 bbls a day. We are going to drill 10 more right here.  
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